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Old 04-07-2011, 11:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Our 4 yr old Standard Cooper was recently diagnosed with Hip displasia on both sides. Worse on one side than the other. They started him on weekly shots for one month, then bi-weekly for a month, and monthly after that. We are almost to the end of the first two months. I have seen some mild improvement but he is still showing signs of pain. The vet said we could do pills instead. Has that worked better for anyone?
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We had a Shepherd once with HD. Never in the Spoos though (thank God)! I would encourage you to post the HD results on the Poodle Health Registry site though. This is the only way breeders know which lines to avoid when breeding. Gorky, a member here had a boy who died and reported his ailments and I am so grateful for that. I am sure if you pm'd her, she would encourage you to do the same.

I am so sorry you are going through this with your precious family member. Would you please PM me the name of the kennel he came from and his registered name, so I can look at his pedigree? I would really appreciate that.
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He is not registered. He is actually a Spoo/Aerdale Mix. We rescued him when he was 7 mos old.
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I had a mix who had horrible joints since he was little. I thought I would need to put him down by the time he was 2. But researched and tried MSM. This worked until he was 10. Then he got arthritis too and we added metacam. It was honestly our miracle fix (msm). I really hope it works for you. My buddy was not diagnosed w hd but was pronounced an orthopedic nightmare. Almost every joint. That was a big reason I will only get pups purebred from tested lines. Love my mutts but it was sad :( luck!!!
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I have also heard of MSM and glucosamine. These will take a longer time to take effect.
If the dog really suffers then most vets will prescribe either metacam or rimadyl.

I once had a puppy 7 mos. old a very big boy which was fed puppy food (I dont feed puppy food, only a high 30% protein) diet to my dogs but not puppy food.

This puppy developed Pano (Panosteitis) Growing pains and was put on a two week course of Metacam.. MAGIC !

But on the long run these meds can affect the liver. However if the dog is older and we all know that most dogs dont live a very long life, maybe 10-15 years if the dog is older, I would take my chances and put him on a fast acting medication such as Metacam so at least he will get some quality of life.

Does MSM work on every dog or is it individual, Victoria ?
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There is a canine orthopedic group on yahoo that offers many alternatives to surgery and medications. They have a ton of collective knowledge.
I have a Standard Parti who is severely HD both hips. He is 7 years old, listed on PHR and doing very well. He gets 3000mg of fish oil daily, fish oil is a natural inflammation reducer and he also takes Glyco-Flex III Stage III. The other thing that is very important is to keep leg muscles strong.
Walking backwards, standing up on hind legs and walking, walking up and down hills ect.


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MSM is for sure takes longer to get effect. But works great. I believe it should work for all dogs. But like people every pup is different. MSM is a supplement and not a drug for pain. In the short term I highly recommend metacam. But if after you get the msm in them and it's working you can take them off metacam and have that (not the same bottle) in reserve for when you need it when msm is not enough anymore. this is my best recommendation on my experience. Metacam works very well for arthritis pain later in life too. Which compounds their hip issues, poor buddies.
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Ok, They gave us two options the Adequan shots or Rymadil. They did also tell us about the surgery, but suggested we see if one of the meds works first. We chose to try the shots first. We did not want to do the Rymadil because of the side affects(he is only 4 yrs old). They did not mentions MSM or Metacam. I will ask about these when I go in. Thanks for all the help. P.S. He was a rescue dog so I have no info on his parents. All I know is that they told us he was half Standard half Aredale and he looks it. We got him neutered right after we got him so no worries on him breeding. I am not a breeder.
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MSM is for sure takes longer to get effect. But works great. I believe it should work for all dogs. But like people every pup is different. MSM is a supplement and not a drug for pain. In the short term I highly recommend metacam. But if after you get the msm in them and it's working you can take them off metacam and have that (not the same bottle) in reserve for when you need it when msm is not enough anymore. this is my best recommendation on my experience. Metacam works very well for arthritis pain later in life too. Which compounds their hip issues, poor buddies.

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I totally agree. Metacam as is Rimadyl can have nasty effects on the dog's liver and if MSM works for them than yes, take them off the metacam asap and resort only to MSM. I know a dog groomer who swears by MSM , she has very bad back pain and she takes this supplement and it works for her. I wish it did for me :-(.. I have bad case of pinched nerves in my back when I groom the dogs, especially with the repetitive brushing movement.
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Ok, They gave us two options the Adequan shots or Rymadil. They did also tell us about the surgery, but suggested we see if one of the meds works first. We chose to try the shots first. We did not want to do the Rymadil because of the side affects(he is only 4 yrs old). They did not mentions MSM or Metacam. I will ask about these when I go in. Thanks for all the help. P.S. He was a rescue dog so I have no info on his parents. All I know is that they told us he was half Standard half Aredale and he looks it. We got him neutered right after we got him so no worries on him breeding. I am not a breeder.



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You are a wonderful and dedicated dog owner. Your dog is fortunate to have you .

I have also heard of hydrotherapy (exercise in water) . I know my vet has a facility (new one) which he opened last year where they offer hydro treatments and aucupuncture.

Have you ever thought about aproaching a hollistic vet, on the long run it may save you surgery and also medication expenses. I know of serveral dogs who had had wonderful results with acupuncture and/or hollistic treatments.

It may be worth your while to investigae this field and cover all angles and see which treatment, hopefully the most natural one is beneficial to your dog.

If you are already on the path of spending money, at least you will be spending it on the appropriate treatment after investigating all options.

Conventional medicine is not the only option, there are others more natural and at times more effective.
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