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Old 08-16-2010, 09:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am getting ready to buy a new set of poles (have been using the stick in the ground type) but unsure if I should go with a set of Channel Weaves or 2X2. Which are your guy's preference? I've so far only used the WAM method, it worked fine for my 4 yr old afghan but my 6 yr old really has a hard time with them fully up and it has been a challenge with stick in the ground poles to try and be really gradual with pulling them together. I also have a 7 month old toy poodle that I will be starting on weaves at the end of the year and not sure which method is best also for smaller dogs.....
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I am sold on the 2 x 2 method..I have trained 4 dogs on Weaves..my lab was first and was taught with the push pull method..he never had particularly good weaves..both my cavaliers were initially taught with channel weaves..they did great until we came to straight weaves..with them slightly apart they were great but they had a lot of trouble transitioning to straight weaves..the older cav still stresses at the weaves, the younger cav as soon as I realized he really didn't understand I started retraining with the 2 x 2 method which had just started gaining some popularity and he much better and more consistent then the older cav which was also retrained with 2 x 2 but still stresses at teh weaves..Flyer (poodle) was trained from the begining on 2 x 2 and he at under 2 years of age already has better weaves than either of the cavs..I also like the portability of the 2 x 2 weaves .. I can put them in the back of my car and take them anywhere to practice..*G*
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What do you mean by 2 x 2 weaves?
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I haven't started weaves yet, but everyone I know swears by the 2X2. I think it is pretty much the go to method these days.
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What do you mean by 2 x 2 weaves?
2 x 2 weaves is a relatively new method of training weave poles started by Susan Garrett you use sets of 2 weave poles to train the dog weave starting with one set and adding the others so you need 6 sets of 2 x 2 to make 12 weave poles.



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2x2 is the way to go, this is what I did with Flip and he is awesome at weaves, and never ever stresses about them.

I also say 'weave weave weave weave weave' as he does it in a high pitched, fun voice.
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I trained my schnauzer girl using the guide-wires. If I line her up she will go through them perfectly, so we are doing a somewhat 2 x 2 method with her finding her entrace.

With the other dogs, I'm not sure what we'll do. I may wait and see what our new trainer prefers.
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Thanks for the thoughts! I am currently experimenting with my PVC base poles with the 2X2 and seeing how I like it before I invest in a nice metal base set with my 6 yr old afghan.....she seems to like it so far. ^.^ Hopefully have luck and can get her past this hurtle, the weave poles and the teeter have been the only things that have prevented me from entering her in competitions. :-)
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For me I taught my standards on the Weave-O-Matic method with stick in the ground poles in my backyard about 2 weeks of work at about 5-10 minutes per evening.

I also now have a puppy miniature and I am planning on using the Accordion Channel method with this puppy. It is not that I don't still beleive in the WAM method I do. I just don't think my mini will need one of the benifits i find the WAM's creating footwork for single tracking. I think if I had a toy I would use channels of some kind also anything to keep the speed up.

Susan Garrett uses shaping to train her dogs so if you use shaping with any method you should get great success. Never give corrections in the weaves ever ever.
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I LOVE Susan Garrett's 2x2 method. Vinnie is my sixth agility dog and the first I have taught with the 2x2 method and it's been the best method for the dog so far. Get yourself the DVD - you won't regret it
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