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At its January 9-10 2017 Board of Directors meeting the AKC board discussed potential enhancements to the Rally venue. I am very excited by the prospects here.

I copied this passage directly from the posted minutes.

"Rally Program Enhancements
The Board reviewed a Staff recommendation to create two additional Rally classes – the Intermediate class and the Master class. In terms of difficulty, the Intermediate class is between the current Novice and Advanced classes. The Master class will be more difficult than the Excellent class. There will be titles associated with these new classes. In addition, a Rally Championship prefix title (RACH) is recommended for dogs that achieve a given number of triple Qs (qualify in the Advanced, Excellent and Master class at the same trial) plus earn a given number of points from the Master class. If approved, clubs may start to apply for events with these new classes on August 1, 2017 for events held on or after December 1, 2017. This will be discussed further at the February meeting."

I love the idea that rather than just continuing to accumulate RAE levels I have the chance to earn a prefix title with my sweet girl Lily. She is such a hard worker and willing partner. It will be very interesting to see what the master class will entail. I imagine that there will be a much more obedience ring style of not talking to the dog ad lib.

Depending on where Javelin is in his progress we might do the intermediate class.

I hope these changes are approved and that they inspire some of you to come out and play!
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Wow! I love the idea of an intermediate class between Novice and Advanced.

I hope these new classes are implemented, it would be great!
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Axeldog I will be interested to see what the intermediate class will be like. Will it be on or off leash? If on leash will there be a jump? I think only a broad jump is safe with a leash on the dog.

For the masters class I imagine that you will be restricted to giving just one order at each station. I would also think it might be like the RAE class for rally nationals this year where there are no reattempts of stations allowed. If you miss the first time in RAE you have to take the -10 IP and go on. This would also be like the requirement for clean runs only as qualifying in the higher classes of agility. It is hard to envision what new signs they might add, but I would also think that some of the newer excellent only signs (that many judges rarely use) would be required in the design of masters courses. Since many of those signs are based on utility obedience I don't think Lily and I would have a problem with that requirement.

I guess we will know for sure about this after the February board meeting.
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Lily cdre, I like hose suggestions a lot! I am in that place where intermediate would be helpful. I am not totally comfortable with the advanced signs all off leash yet. I am interested to know how the intermediate might be different from advanced.
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i would guess that Intermediate would be,like the obedience PCD,some off leash /some on lead work. It IS tough to go from all on to all off for young dogs. The Master's would probably be like ASCA Master's, like Lily described. I have deliberately not done this level due to the lack of "cheerleading" that Che prefers.And I do not know how I would get him through THREE classes in one day-or more likely how I would hold up! Also,at 8+,I worry about too much jumping. He DID leap onto the top of the unused console tv to get his beaver last week,so if sufficiently motivated..... we shall see,eh?

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The intermediate class might be good for Javelin if it is a good way to transition to off leash. I am also thinking that I may do beginner novice with that young man this spring.

I just wish we didn't have to wait until December for the changes if they are approved. I would love to see what masters involves and try to get Lily started for that champion title.
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From what I read recently, it appears as if Intermediate will also be all on lead. Interested to see how it will differ from Novice now-distractions on Figure 8 maybe?

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I will copy from the February AKC board minutes below. The Rally program changes were approved! The intermediate class will be all on leash, but use advanced signs (at least 3 per course) and will not have a jump included. No specifics on what the Masters class courses might be like, but there is information on the requirements for the RACh title.

"Rally Program Enhancements
The Board VOTED to create two additional Rally classes – the Intermediate class and the Master class. In terms of difficulty, the Intermediate class is between the current Novice and Advanced classes. The Master class will be more difficult than the Excellent class. There will be titles associated with these new classes. In addition, a Rally Championship prefix title (RACH) is recommended for dogs that achieve a given number of triple Qs (qualify in the Advanced, Excellent and Master class at the same trial) plus earn a given number of points from the Master class. Clubs may start to apply for events with these new classes on August 1, 2017 for events held on or after November 1, 2017. (Changes Underlined)


Section 22. Limitation of Entries.
(Beginning at Paragraph 3) When entries are limited, a club must designate an RAE and a Rally Champion (RACH) class in the premium list. Dogs entered in this RAE class would be entered in both Advanced B and Excellent B, and the combined entry fee for these two classes must be paid. If due to entry limits an exhibitor cannot be entered in both the Advanced B and Excellent B classes the RAE class will be considered closed and any subsequent entries for this class will be unacceptable in their entirety.
Dogs entered in the RACH class would be entered in Advanced B, Excellent B and the
Master class. The combined entry fee for these three classes must be paid. If due to
entry limits an exhibitor cannot be entered in the Advanced B, Excellent B and Master
classes the RACH class will be considered closed and any subsequent entries for this
class will be unacceptable in their entirety.However, a club at its discretion, may choose to establish a wait list in order to fill openings created by entries that are withdrawn prior to the event closing day. If a club is maintaining a wait list, this shall be stated in the premium. The full entry fee shall be refunded to an entrant whose entry is replaced by a wait-listed entry.
Chapter 2
Section 16. Heel Position.
The dog is at the handler’s left side, facing the same direction the handler is facing; the dog’s body is within the area of the handler’s left hip; and the dog should be close to, but not crowding its handler so that the handler has freedom of motion at all times.

Chapter 3
Section 7. Qualifying Scores and General Scoring.
Minor to Substantial Deduction (1-10 points)
for each of the following:

Repeat of a station -- only one (1) retry of each station will be allowed for all class levels, except there are no retries in the Rally Master class. Repeat of a station is an automatic 3-point deduction
Section 10. Rally Ribbons.
At licensed or member rally trials, the following colors must be used for prize ribbons or rosettes in all regular classes:
First Prize – Blue
Second Prize – Red
Third Prize – Yellow
Fourth Prize – White
Qualifying Prize – Dark Green
Highest Combined score in Advanced B and Excellent B award ribbon or rosette shall be Blue and Green.
Section 12. Highest Combined Score in the Advanced
B and Excellent B Classes.
The dog receiving the highest combined score in Advanced B and Excellent B will be awarded the ribbon and any prizes offered for this placement after the Advanced B and
Excellent B classes have been judged and after the announcement of those final scores.
The superintendent or show or trial secretary will mark the catalog with an (HC) to
identify the dog receiving this award.
Section 13. Highest Scoring Triple Qualifying Score
.
The dog receiving the highest combined score in Advanced B, Excellent B and Master class will be awarded the ribbon and any prizes offered for this placement after the
Advanced B, Excellent B and Master classes have been judged and after the announcement of those final scores. The superintendent or show or trial secretary will mark the catalog with an "HTQ" to identify the dog receiving this award.
In the case of tied scores between dogs eligible for the above award, the dog completing the three courses in the least amount of combined time will receive the award. In the event that both the score and time are the same, each dog will be tested
again, individually, by performing a course as chosen by the judge. The original scores will not be changed, but a plus (+) will be added after the score of the dog winning the
runoff. The judge for a run-off will be designated by the club from among the judges of the rally trial. When a run-off has been completed, the judge will record the results on a special sheet that identifies the dogs taking part in the run-off by catalog number, class and breed. When the judge has marked and signed the sheet, it will be turned over to the superintendent or show or trial secretary who will mark the catalog accordingly and forward the sheet to the AKC as part of the records of the trial. If a club chooses to allow dogs listed with AKC Canine Partners to enter their trial, such dogs are eligible for the Highest Triple Qualifying Score in the Advanced B, Excellent B and Master classes
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And the rest of the Masters and RACh information.

Section 2. Rally Intermediate Class.
To be eligible for this class dogs must have won the Rally Novice (RN) title but have not earned a qualifying score in a Rally Advanced. All dogs are judged on leash. Rally Intermediate must have between 12 to 17 signs (Start and Finished not included) with a minimum of three and a maximum of seven stationary signs. Intermediate courses will have a minimum of three Advanced level signs. There are no jumps in this class.
The letters RI may be added after the name of each dog that has been certified by at least two different judges to have received qualifying scores in Intermediate class at three licensed or member rally trials. That dog will receive a Rally Intermediate certificate from the AKC.
Section 3. Rally Advanced Class.
The Rally Advanced A Class.
To be eligible for this class, dogs shall have won the Rally Novice (RN) title, or the Rally Intermediate (RI) title, but have not won the Rally Advanced (RA) title or any AKC Obedience title (including optional class titles) prior to the close of entries.
The Rally Advanced B Class.
To be eligible for this class, dogs shall have won the Rally Novice (RN) title, or the Rally Intermediate (RI) title prior to the close of entries.
Section 4. Rally Excellent Class.
Section 5. Rally Master Class.
To be eligible for this class a dog must have won the Rally Excellent (RE) title. All dogs are judged off leash. The Master class must have between 15 to 20 signs (Start and Finish not included) with a minimum of three and a maximum of seven stationary signs.
Courses will have a minimum of three Advanced level signs, three Excellent level
signs, four Master level signs plus the one required jump sign. There are no retries for any of the signs on the Rally Master course. Unlike in the Rally Novice, Intermediate and Advanced classes, in the Rally Master class handlers are not allowed to pat their legs or clap their hands to encourage the dog. Verbal encouragement, multiple commands and/or inaudible signals using one or both arms and hands are allowed; the handler’s arms need not be maintained in any particular position at any time. Handlers may not touch their dog or make any physical corrections. The letters RM may be added after the name of each dog that has been certified by at least two different judges to have received qualifying scores in the Master class at ten licensed or member rally trials. That dog will receive a Rally Master certificate from the AKC. The letters RM will be followed by a numeric designation indicating the number of times a dog has met the requirements of the RM title as defined in these regulations. (RM2 for 20 qualifying scores, RM3 for 30 qualifying scores,RM4 for 40 qualifying scores, etc.)
Section 6. Jumps.
A dog is required to jump once in the Advanced class, twice in the Excellent class and once in the Master class.
Chapter 5
Section 1. Dogs that May Compete.
Rally Championship points will be recorded for dogs after they have earned the Rally Master title. When a dog earns the Rally Champion title, it may continue to compete and earn points.

Section 2. Championship Points.
Rally Championship points will be recorded for dogs earning a score of 91 or better in the Rally Master class. A dog must earn a total of 300 points. Additionally, the dog must have received qualifying scores in Advanced B, Excellent B and the Master class, on the same day at the same trial at 20 separate licensed or member rally trials.
Section 3. Point Schedule
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Master
Class
Score Points
91 1
92 1
93 1
94 1
95 1
96 1
97 2
98 3
99 4
100 5

Section 4. Rally Champion Title.
The AKC will issue a Rally Champion certificate and will permit the use of the letters RACH preceding the name of each dog that meets the requirements. The letters RACH will be followed by a numeric designation indicating the number of times a dog has met the requirements of the RACH title as defined in these regulations. (RACH2 for 40 triple qualifying scores and 600 points, RACH3 for 60 triple qualifying scores and 900 points, etc.)"
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By my calculations, the lowest cost estimate to complete an RACH title is $3,000. That would be ...

• 60 perfect runs (5 points each) in the master class times $30/run = $1,800
• Plus 40 more runs @ $30 (for the required 20 triple Qs) = $1,200

And, given the realities of competition, it will likely cost a whole lot more to finish all the points required after you get your 20 QQQs.

By comparison, an RAE title probably costs around $1,200.

Right now, I just don't want to spend the money to chase that title--but maybe later. I'm skipping a lot of rally trials this year. I'm not even going to Premier, UKC's big show in Kalamazoo, even though Neely is the #4 dog (and highest-scoring poodle) in both Levels 2 and 3 on the nationwide 2016 Rally All Stars list.

I'm saving my money to try to finish Neely's UKC utility title, since it will mean travel and motel expenses. He picked up his first leg in December. I'm also looking for two Qs in AKC Preferred Open to finish that title. We're going to try our first outdoor AKC obedience trial in May (yes, we've already started practicing outside at the park).

Thanks for all the information!

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