Originally Posted by SnorPuddel

I am neither a trainer, nor do I compete in Obedience or Agility, my personality is too competitive that it would no longer be fun for myself or the poodles.

I have used both traditional, clicker and purely reward based training. I have NEVER corrected nor told Baldr NO, and he has the best recall ever. He is very obedient, he has a small issue with out of sight and very long distance sit-stays (too much of a momma's boy). Foxxy I trained the same way and her sit stay is SOLID and she is also very obedient and well behaved. I get many comments from people saying that I have such well behaved poodles, of course all dogs have their moments, but they are very good.
I think training is a very personal choice, and what works best for you.

Below are some pics of where I put Foxxy in a sit stay and Baldr and I walked away and around to the bank of the river in front of her. When I released her, she decided to use the shortest path until she realized the water was a little too deep for her liking

Originally Posted by jak

That's because you must be doing things correctly to the method.
I find a lot of people say that these 'methods' don't work for them etc. and it is only because they aren't doing them properly in the first place !