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Olie · 07-01-2010, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Purley

I am not sure if this comes under the heading of "bashing" but there seems to be a pattern of irresponsibility here!

Not in my book. It's a very good observation and one I agree with - and hopefully the right choices will made to NOT breed a dog that now, may not even have the correct temperament let alone the other issues discussed in a thread a while back.

Ikes - trying NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE~~

OP - Please understand it is very hard for some of us that want to help if we can

but to not speak up especailly when plans are to breed a dog "just cuz" -

**plumcrazy** · 07-01-2010, 09:19 AM

Not bashing... just wondering if complete health testing will be done on the prospective breeding dogs? That is sooooo important in this breed, and should not be "optional"!

faerie · 07-01-2010, 10:14 AM

i adore my dog. she's absolutely the sweetest bestest most wonderful and pretty standard poodle i've ever seen! and she has full akc registration.

and she was spayed yesterday. There are enough breeders out there working to make the best spoos and it's okay if temperance's line dies with her. it's all okay.
i also have 2 akc registered cairns and they are spayed/neutered too.

as to the behavior w/ your spoo & your child. starting right now since you can't go back to 6 weeks or however old the pup was when you got him he needs to be reminded that he is not the alpha. dogs always wait til humans go through the door.

i'd start training hard core now. on leash. wait til his turn, he has to earn everything.

jak · 07-01-2010, 10:50 AM

Purley · 07-01-2010, 12:02 PM

My agility trainer has a very good policy -- the dog can do NOTHING wrong. If the dog makes a mistake - its the TRAINER'S FAULT.

So, if your dog knocks your child down the steps -- its YOUR fault for either not training the dog properly and/or not watching the dog when you know it hasn't been trained properly.

jak · 07-01-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrand

Mannie
Cherry Eye... this eye issue can be fixed, but it is considered to be genetic
Mismarked (disqualifying fault in AKC)
Flat feet
Eastie/westie in the front
Low tail set
Submissive/excited peeing (I would not breed this temperament forward)

this is Mannie.. and you would still continue to breed from him :O ???

Purley · 07-01-2010, 12:32 PM

I think you know the answer from the majority of people on here.

I absolutely LOVE my dogs. I can't give any poodle comments because I don't have mine until later this month. My puppy's parents are both Canadian Champions but I will get her spayed at six months.

But - my older Shih-tzus father was the top Shih-tzu in Canada in 2003. His mother was a Canadian Kennel Club champion. The breeder was considering keeping Sam for show but as he grew his colour marking was only on one side. So I got him. Would I consider breeding him - no way.

Tyson - well I love Tyson and he is my agility dog. His father was a really nice Canadian Kennel Club champion. He is a wonderful pet but has terrible conformation. I always get my dogs fixed at six months.

Being a wonderful pet does not qualify a dog to reproduce.

PaddleAddict · 07-01-2010, 12:51 PM

Training will help... buy a good book and start doing 10- or 15-minute sessions a day. Also, I second the suggestion of keeping him on a leash when your son is not right there with you. My father-in-law tethered his spoo in the house (and other people's homes) until 18 months... 1 year old is still young (mentally), but the dog is big, so this can cause trouble as you found out.

Also, neutering *may* calm him down some. It couldn't hurt. Please don't breed this dog. We are not bashing when we say this, but coming from a place of good intentions.

Harley_chik · 07-01-2010, 06:32 PM

This has been bothering me since I read it hours ago. If you take the dog completely out of the equation, a 3yr old child was left unsupervised near an open door that led to concrete steps! That just seem irresponsible to me. It does sound like the dog needs more training but lack of supervision is what led to this. Rule #1 of dog ownership is "never leave a young child and dog together unsupervised." I would also like to point out that most dog bites come from young, unneutered males.

And what happened to the female you had when you first joined?

Olie · 07-01-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shalynn

Yesterday mannie, my 3 year old son and i were at my moms and i was in the back room painting while my son was in the livingroom with 3 adults

She said he did leave him with adults - the adults should have been supervising, IMO and they would have gotten an earful from me!

I was wondering how the female was doing also. Where is her training at? If the same as Mannie you may need to get them into a class or some private sessions - there are deals out there.

Also, you may want to crate him/ex pens whatever it takes to confine him - it could have been a lot worse for your son.