Hand Signals - Poodle Forum - Standard Poodle, Toy Poodle, Miniature Poodle Forum ALL Poodle owners too!
   

Go Back   Poodle Forum - Standard Poodle, Toy Poodle, Miniature Poodle Forum ALL Poodle owners too! > Poodle Training and Obedience > General Training and Obedience

General Training and Obedience All training and obedience questions, tips, articles go here

PoodleForum.com is the premier Poodle Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-13-2010, 04:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 13,743, Level: 80 Points: 13,743, Level: 80 Points: 13,743, Level: 80
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Birdie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Names of dogs: Desmond
Poodle Type: Standard Poodle
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 1,492
Thanks: 26
Thanked 73 Times in 47 Posts
Default Hand Signals

Do you use them with your dog?

I was told a while back that the dog should be able to respond to only verbal cues and not need the hand signals, so I tried to never even incorporate them during training with Desmond, so neither of us would get in the habit and learn to rely on them.
However, I eventually ended up using signals for a few things (accidentally), especially sit, down, and other basics, as well as snapping my fingers for "focus". He used to suck at laying down, he would kind of dawdle and wouldn't down very quickly, but when we started using hand signals, he reacted differently to the command. Instead of "...euhh... I'll lay down... I guess." we get "DOWN!!" He looks so enthusiastic now that he knows exactly what I'm asking of him. I've seen that, at least in our case, the dog learns MUCH quicker when I use hand signals instead of just verbal cues. I figure we can phase them out as we train though, so he can lay down simply on cue instead of looking for the signal only.

Thing is, I always avoided hand signals because of the off case scenario where the dog wouldn't see them, such as if he was far away or was in some emergency situation where he should just respond to a verbal cue. This may be totally far-fetched though. Was I misled when I was told that a dog trainer shouldn't use hand signals? What are your thoughts on hand signals and the importance of them?
Birdie is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-13-2010, 04:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 17,907, Level: 92 Points: 17,907, Level: 92 Points: 17,907, Level: 92
Activity: 9% Activity: 9% Activity: 9%
 
flyingduster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Names of dogs: Paris
Poodle Type: standard
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 2,492
Thanks: 9
Thanked 69 Times in 44 Posts
Default

I use hand signals all the time (dogs talk with body language, and so do we, why not talk to THEM with body language!!??!) but I do also have voice cues for the primary things too. She knows them both, but does work better if she can read my body properly too.

Personally I think our jabber can be confusing to them. As much as we try to make clear commands, they're still not always as clear to dogs as body language. Hence I use both.
flyingduster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2010, 06:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 5,500, Level: 50 Points: 5,500, Level: 50 Points: 5,500, Level: 50
Activity: 5% Activity: 5% Activity: 5%
 
Sparkle&Spunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Names of dogs: Ocsi & Fallie
Poodle Type: Minature and Standard
Location: RTP, NC
Posts: 438
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post
Default

^agreed! we do both as well
Sparkle&Spunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2010, 08:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 17,867, Level: 92 Points: 17,867, Level: 92 Points: 17,867, Level: 92
Activity: 9% Activity: 9% Activity: 9%
 
bigpoodleperson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Names of dogs: Riley
Poodle Type: Standard
Location: IL
Posts: 2,011
Thanks: 70
Thanked 180 Times in 95 Posts
Default

I have never had trouble with Riley confusing the commands. I use voice and hand signals and i love them both. I like to be able to give a command from accross the room without yelling sit. Or ive had a few instances where i wanted him to sit infront of other people without them knowing (you had to be there), so i gave him a sly hand signal.
Riley knows 2 different hand signals for sit and down each, one for stand and say, and English, French, and German for sit and down. I find it fun and we enjoy showing them off. He knows hand signals for different tricks too.
bigpoodleperson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2010, 05:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 10,923, Level: 72 Points: 10,923, Level: 72 Points: 10,923, Level: 72
Activity: 1% Activity: 1% Activity: 1%
 
AgilityIG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Names of dogs: Frank, Betty, Robin, Vinnie
Poodle Type: Kleinpudel
Location: Iowa
Posts: 1,540
Thanks: 108
Thanked 131 Times in 69 Posts
Default

We teach hand and voice signals - you should be able to use both. That way if one is not appropriate, you can use the other (for example: in the case of a loud building or somewhere that you don't want to speak out loud, use a hand signal)
AgilityIG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2010, 10:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 51,104, Level: 100 Points: 51,104, Level: 100 Points: 51,104, Level: 100
Activity: 25% Activity: 25% Activity: 25%
 
Olie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Poodle Type: Standard
Posts: 4,448
Thanks: 603
Thanked 498 Times in 271 Posts
Default

I think most "beings" are more stimulated by visual movement in a lot of situations then noise or us speaking. (classes I had taken on body language lol... it makes sense to me when I am working with the dogs)

I use both. A very WELL trained dog who has had very thorough intense training should know both I would think; but the average trained dog responds to what stimulates them most and if it's visual I would likely use that.
Olie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2010, 08:16 AM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 1,851, Level: 26 Points: 1,851, Level: 26 Points: 1,851, Level: 26
Activity: 2% Activity: 2% Activity: 2%
 
cerulia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Names of dogs: Vilka-standard poodle, Loki-miniature poodle, Goby(RIP)-minniature poodle
Poodle Type: Standard & Minniature
Location: New England
Posts: 104
Thanks: 9
Thanked 13 Times in 6 Posts
Default

We use hand signals as well as verbal for Vilka. It's nice to sometimes not use verbal signals becaue they can be obnoxious. When we have company and we're all talking it is nice to not have to interrupt someone in mid-sentence with "SIT!" haha
cerulia is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Understanding dog "signals" Cdnjennga General Training and Obedience 3 01-30-2010 08:52 AM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:28 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
All (C) PoodleForum.com
PetGuide.com
Basset.net DobermanTalk.com GoldenRetrieverForum.com OurBeagleWorld.com
BoxerForums.com DogForums.com GoPitbull.com PoodleForum.com
BulldogBreeds.com FishForums.com HavaneseForum.com SpoiledMaltese.com
CatForum.com GermanShepherds.com Labradoodle-dogs.net YorkieForum.com
Chihuahua-People.com RetrieverBreeds.com