I'm definitely going to call the trainer & let her know how I'm feeling. I'll see how the conversation goes.
This situation is further complicated by the fact that the classes are held in a friend/fellow volunteer's doggie daycare/grooming shop. I guess I should also talk with him...
I am getting more upset at each class, it's true. I had hoped that the leash popping was going to be the worst of it... But last night I just couldn't believe it. I kept looking from owner to owner while she was demonstrating the anti-jump & forced down like, "REALLY - are you ok with that?!?". They seemed to be. I seriously considered walking out.
Thanks again for the support, Everyone. I feel relieved & validated.
You have to do what you comfortable with. If the class makes you uncomfortable, then you shouldn't put yourself and your dog through that.
I'd get my money back because that's definabley not as advertised.
This is EXACTLY what I did when I found myself in the same situation after the first puppy training class I took Chagall to. I prevailed in getting my money back (the "easy way," my dh is an attorney!). It wasn't about the money, which I turned around and donated to Poodle Rescue. It was to show trainer that her techniques did not fly with me!! I trained Chagall all by myself and he sailed through is CGC. I would not stay in the class for all the reasons already mentioned. And I would make the trainer "feel" the wallop in the her wallet just to be sure you had her attention. That's just me. I'm old and a bit crusty now. When I was younger I would simply have walked quietly away from the class. But I am now more inclined to stand and fight for those, like innocent pups, who are unable to do so for themselves.
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I absolutely agree - run, don't walk, away, take your neighbour with you, and write to the trainer explaining why you are leaving and that you expect a full refund as the classes were not as described, and copy the letter to you friend who runs the establishment. All open and above board. There are, unfortunately, all too may trainers still teaching these methods, but to describe them as Positive or Reward based is either complete ignorance or fraud and misrepresentation - either way, not someone I would trust anywhere near my dog!
To sit with a dog on a hillside on a glorious afternoon is to be back in Eden,
where doing nothing was not boring- it was peace.
~ Milan Kundera
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Just curious, was force free spelled ForceFree with a "TM" at the end?
I chose this trainer by name referral from aforementioned friend/fellow Dobe rescue volunteer who owns the doggie daycare/grooming locale where classes are held. I never saw any literature or website.
I initially spoke with the trainer on the phone for 15 minutes or so, asked her many questions & she had all the right answers. (I also phone interviewed 3 others.)
I researched area trainers today & plan to call some tomorrow. I'll be calling the current trainer tomorrow, as well.
I want training to be a mutually enjoyable time of bonding for Lula & I.
I read all these books & feel so excited by their methods - I just have to find the classes to match.
Pat Miller, Ian Dunbar, et al - where are you?
I'm very interested in this trainer: http://dreamdogsonline.com/aboutus.htm
Though it's a 1 hour drive (each way), I'd make the 12 week commitment.
This lady is certified by Pat Miller & Victoria Stilwell. How cool is that?
Great LauraRose! I follow the school of thought of asking for an "incompatible behavior," so if my poodle were to jump up (he did come full equipped with springs in his rear legs!) I would ask for, and get, a "sit." I think it's wise that you're considering an "incompatible behavior" here yourself by declining to adhere to a training program for Lula that doesn't feel quite right to you. I learned to actually go and audit a training class before forking over the enrollment fee and signing up. Hope all the support you've received here helps you feel more comfortable with the action you'll be taking.
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Well I called the current/former trainer. I told her I've been uncomfortable in class & feel bad for inviting my neighbors. She was quite rude. I asked for a refund. She's sending one, prorated.
Now to call my friend who owns the class location. :-/