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Old 02-11-2013, 10:14 AM   #31 (permalink)
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One think I think is important to teach your puppy that grabbing his collar is a positive. I did this a lot when Swizzle was a puppy and occasionally reinforce it now. Grab and treat. Since my grabbing his collar is so positive he will swing into me to make himself easier to grab. Once Swizzle had come down pat I try calling come in an angry voice. He came very reluctantly and then it was party time with lots of treats and lovings. Lou I want to stress what Catherine said. Don't use a command unless you are fairly sure it will be obeyed. You want the success rate to be 80% or higher. By repeating command and her getting away with not doing it now she is taught that not obeying is an option. Asking for a come in a situation were there are a lot of new variables and the excitement of other dogs is not something I would attempt till I had a lot of successes with distractions (and anything new or different is a distraction).
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DITTO: Don't use a command until you can get the result. For instance, I was told not to practice the recall on every walk, since there are distrations, and a squirrel was pretty darn interesting! If you do that, and there are times they don't come, it dilutes the command and you would be better off starting over with another Cue Word. I stopped using it all the time, and only pull it out now and then and am sure I have great rewards waiting. Once he does the FRONT recall and immediately returns and sits at my feet, he is treated. And off we go. He then keeps watching me over his shoulder like, "ummmm, are you sure you don't have a command you want me to do for you? Really? I am more than ready." He is too smart for his own good.
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One think I think is important to teach your puppy that grabbing his collar is a positive. I did this a lot when Swizzle was a puppy and occasionally reinforce it now. Grab and treat. Since my grabbing his collar is so positive he will swing into me to make himself easier to grab. Once Swizzle had come down pat I try calling come in an angry voice. He came very reluctantly and then it was party time with lots of treats and lovings. Lou I want to stress what Catherine said. Don't use a command unless you are fairly sure it will be obeyed. You want the success rate to be 80% or higher. By repeating command and her getting away with not doing it now she is taught that not obeying is an option. Asking for a come in a situation were there are a lot of new variables and the excitement of other dogs is not something I would attempt till I had a lot of successes with distractions (and anything new or different is a distraction).

Mmmm... English is my second language... I didnt understand what you meant about grabbing his collar being a positive thing... Sorry.
Well, if Lou is in trouble and she starts walking away from me , I give her a look and a loud AH-AH and she gets on the couch (where i can grab her) and lays on her side... then I give her hugs and kisses and tell her she is a good girl, but this is INDOORS, outside she is like a completely different puppy. But she has been getting better, I dont let her pull me home when she is scared of a silly golf cart driving by, Im teaching her to trust me when I tell her she is not in danger etc... I know this is not my thread and it kinda happened that I became the center of attention, I didnt mean this to happen, but I wanna thank you all for the responses, Im new to having a big dog, and I havent had any dogs since I was a child.. but and reading and learning a lot and Im devoting myself completely and obsessively to make sure she has the best care ever!! :-)
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Lou sorry that I was unclear. There may be a time you have to grab your dog's collar. Usually dogs kind of flinch away making it hard to get them. From when Swizzle was a puppy I have made a practice of grabbing his collar and simultaneously treating him. Do this occasionally till he loves being grabbed by the collar.
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No it wasnt unclear, my english just fails me sometimes...LOL

I see what u mean, thats a great idea!! Im learning so much! yay :-)
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Love the FRONT command... Storm Front.... lol
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Mmmm... English is my second language... I didnt understand what you meant about grabbing his collar being a positive thing...
Lou, go back in this thread to where I talked about helping someone in my neighborhood catch her dog. That will illustrate why your dog should think you grabbing the collar is good. We had finally gotten this dog out in front of its own house and when the owner reached for the collar, the dog took off don the street again.

The important thing about the OP's success with Sunny is that getting close to her brought the dog under control and didn't present another moment where running away was likely.
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Lou, go back in this thread to where I talked about helping someone in my neighborhood catch her dog. That will illustrate why your dog should think you grabbing the collar is good. We had finally gotten this dog out in front of its own house and when the owner reached for the collar, the dog took off don the street again.

The important thing about the OP's success with Sunny is that getting close to her brought the dog under control and didn't present another moment where running away was likely.
Yes! I read that before and it made me stop breathing while reading it... when u ended the story I let the air out of my lungs !! LOL I understand perfectly what u mean now, thanks so much for taking the time to explain :-)
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The great thing about this thread is that it has reminded us all of important ways to keep our dogs safe when they are out in the big world. Thanks for starting this discussion liljaker. Your success with Sunny was a great way to get us all to think about refreshing commands on a regular basis.
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FYI I have never had to so much as hold Sunnys collar, he is 200% willing to listen and come. Again he is an adult and had wonderful training, ring training, whistle recall, etc. before I got him at 3 1/2 years old. My goal is to overcome his fear/run impulse as a result of early experiences, I.e. Walker losing him, chasing him, etc. That is almost more difficult. As he is already smart, understands, but still fearful in certain situations. We are making great progress.
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