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02-08-2013, 10:53 AM
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Omg!! Thanks so much for this... Im doing the "Lou, COME!" with happy voice, and its working but she is soooo curious/intelligent that if something catches her attention she will focus deeply on it! I will absolutely try it with a better tasting treat and making her sit down when she gets in front of me. (she is almost 9 months old)
Question: Does Sunny RUN to you? Or calmly walks to you? Lou sometimes runs excitedly and sometimes walks
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I used the method a trainer friend of mine, now retired, told me to use. I don't use the word Come, since it is over-used. I picked FRONT and started with a long line at the park and some really yummy treats. As soon as he got further away from me on the long line I would firmly yell "Front" and give the line a little tug and he would come running to me and he would get a high value treat. I then asked that he run to me AND sit at my feet, which he does, hence FRONT!
I practiced, practiced, practiced until it was every single time, never complaining if he did not come, just showing him what he should do and giving him the great treat. Sunny is very very focused on pleasing me, so I think is easier than some other dogs, and he was adult when I got him (he was 3 1/2) so he already had some ring training, obedience, etc., so it may be different.
Supposedly takes at least 30 days to imprint, and we practice every day. Now, if I am walking him on the flexi and he is 10' out, I will call Front and he immediately puts on the brakes....turns in mid-air, and comes flying to me---- literally and plunks down at my feet, perfect sit, and waits for his treat.
She also said to not use the command in situations where there is the likelihood he won't come, until you really are comfortable he WILL come - if that makes sense. Otherwise, it dilutes it and it does not mean anything.
Hope this makes sense.
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02-08-2013, 03:04 PM
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Sunny --- and Recall
Today Lou had a poodle play date , it was great, but she was soooooooooooooo excited that all commands were ignored (I quit trying and let her run free in the fenced in park) she never gets to play with other dogs :( so she was LOVING it, but a few times i had to be firm and she listened, when I grabbed her collar. But I tried the "LOU COME!" and it failed about 7 times and when she was tired from playing she obeyed 2 times from a short distance.... Im gonna have to find a way to train her WITH DISTRACTIONS and slowly get her to "come when called"...... She was just so excited! ....... And she is a teenager now! LOL tuff! But im going to get her more professional training when she hits 10 months (1 month from now) thanks for all the info, I will keep working on it
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02-08-2013, 04:16 PM
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Don't poison your cue by using it when she is likely to fail. You should slowly increase the distractions and in the early stages of working this outside of your own living room make sure she has to come by doing it with a leash. I even used leashes for this when we were in our fenced yard with the puppies. If she ignores you at this point when you think she normally would be reliable pick a different word (front, here, etc.) and basically start from scratch. Be careful to keep that word only for situations where you know she will do what you tell her. Make sure she succeeds absolutely reliably at each level before you add more distractions. In other words get the behavior you want clear for her then add the distractions in small increments.
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02-09-2013, 12:43 PM
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Sunny --- and Recall
Thanks!! What would be a great value treat? Ive been looking at stores, cant seem to find anything... She likes soft treats, doesnt seem to care about anything crunchy.. Any suggestions? I dont give her human food or raw.... But anything else that would be tasty to her would be fine with me
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02-09-2013, 05:00 PM
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Thanks!! What would be a great value treat? Ive been looking at stores, cant seem to find anything... She likes soft treats, doesnt seem to care about anything crunchy.. Any suggestions? I dont give her human food or raw.... But anything else that would be tasty to her would be fine with me
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Get some hot dogs, cut in little pieces and microwave to bring out that oh so delicious hot dog flavor. Tiny pieces is all you need ---
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02-09-2013, 05:52 PM
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Freeze dried chicken liver is like crack for dogs. Lily would do almost anything for it and you can break it up in small pieces. It isn't super soft, but it isn't crunchy either. Also blue Buffalo makes training bits treats in a variety of flavors. They are very small and not crunchy.
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02-09-2013, 05:58 PM
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awesome!
(the seasoning is not bad for them? how many 1/4 inch pieces can i give her in 1 day, so she doesnt have diarrhea?)
(I will also buy the frozen dry chicken liver, where do I find it?)
Hope this helps many other dog owners like me, Thanks a bunch!
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02-11-2013, 04:49 AM
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I've never used hot dogs, but know lots of people who do and they use them fairly lavishly.
Freeze dried chicken liver and Blue Buffalo should be in most pet stores (Petco, PetSmart etc.).
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02-11-2013, 07:22 AM
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I've never used hot dogs, but know lots of people who do and they use them fairly lavishly.
Freeze dried chicken liver and Blue Buffalo should be in most pet stores (Petco, PetSmart etc.).
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Thank you so much!!
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02-11-2013, 07:35 AM
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Hot dogs?
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Sunny's breeder said she used it in the ring, and another trainer mentioned it too. I tried once, and I must say, it was pretty greasy, oily, etc. You are only supposed to use very tiny pieces, and the smell is supposedly part of the draw of the hot dog. Luckily for me, Sunny is more than willing to please me so I have lots of options. The dried treats that worked best when I started the Recall were Bravo training bits. They come in many different flavors and are small and very tasty.....if you ask Sunny.
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