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Old 11-27-2012, 12:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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That's the first of that specific product name I had heard of. I watched a rescue series on dogs just being wrapped for their anxiety. That is a long the lines of what I was referring to though!
Just wanted to say, the method you are referring to is called Tellington touch or T touch method. I have no idea if it's real or works, I just know it exists and a lot of people believe in it...

Good luck with Stella, I'm no expert by far, so I'll just sit back quietly and watch.

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Just wanted to say, the method you are referring to is called Tellington touch or T touch method. I have no idea if it's real or works, I just know it exists and a lot of people believe in it...

Good luck with Stella, I'm no expert by far, so I'll just sit back quietly and watch.

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Isn't T Touch slightly different from the whole "wrapping" thing (the wrapping thing having the connection to autism?)
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Well, as I said I don't know a lot about the whole theory and practice, but when I bought a little dress/car seat/handle carrier for Lucy, the inventor of the product explained how it was modeled after the t-touch theory, tightly wrapping the dog at certain pressure points which is why they seem to stay calm when you pick them up by the handle. It was weird how none of the small dogs seemed as nervous or scared when being held even dangling in the air while wearing these harnesses..

Here is a link to show the t-touch wrapping. I just googled "t touch wrap" and this along with many other sites showed up - What is TTouch?

Here are the harnesses I'm talking about...
http://www.facebook.com/#!/itsallaboutmecanine?fref=ts

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Yep, that is like what I watched.

Like I said, I know next to nothing about it, I think it would probably be best to work with a trainer and train wanted behaviors or tasks during a high anxiety moment, but it seems like a simple enough thing to do as a fail safe while training?

I saw redirected aggression at the dog park, but it was towards the owner not another dog. The owner was trying to pull their dog off another dog it was humping and it started flailing around by the collar, it looked just simply excited, but then it turn around and started biting into the woman's jacket and leg.

Pretty scary!

Please keep us updated on Carley and Stella.
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Here is a link to a website that may help a little. It reinforces was has been said above.

The Dog Trainer : Redirected Aggression and Barrier Frustration :: Quick and Dirty Tips


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Oh yeah! I see this ALL the time. Especially at my old job at a boarding facility/groomer. So important to promote calmness and referee when things are getting too rough and rowdy.
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I have used thundershirts with some success for Peeves (and to a lesser extent Lily, who is generally not so sensitive) with fear and anxious behavior during fireworks and thunderstorms. I also agree that positive reinforcement of desirable behaviors during counter-conditioning training sessions where you control the triggers (noises) for the outbursts of aggressive behavior is the most likely way to get a long term solution that lets both dogs live peacefully under one roof. It will take a long time, but eventually you should be able to get Stella to give you a conditioned response that you desire in response to the cues that currently stress her out.

Be careful and patient. I hope you get a good outcome.
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