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Old 11-04-2012, 02:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Everyone!

So I recently lost my beloved spoo in september...
I was perusing craigslist under pets looking for posts with poodles & came across a darling 7 month old male... So I contacted the foster mom...

Turns out td boy was sold from a breeder to someone. That person wanted to use the dog as a stud but realized he was too large to make minis (well DUH he's a standard!!!)... The current foster saw him and the situation he was in... She took him as she didn't want him to be left in a puppy mill environment. Big time kudos to her for that!

She in turn, has been having him at her home with her two other pooches & is looking to find him a forever home (although does not want to let him go, but admits it is for the best) apparently her 2 small dogs gang up on him... She had contacted the original breeder to find out details about him. According to the breeder he had no health issues - but was a bit of a loner... Keeper to himself. The current foster states that he learns easily but needs a more laid environment with an owner who can help bring him out of his shell...& apparently he doesn't travel well - but does good in a car... I'm only 2 hours & 15 minutes away...

My concerns... I travel every weekend almost to my vacation home (1.5 hour drive) so the travelling issue worries me. His socialization needs work - big time (as a newborn the breeder called him a "loner"?)... The current owner says her two small dogs always nag him...will this push him further back in regard to socialization / coming out of his shell? Is 7 months too far along to correct td? I mean he is a poodle - they are pretty brilliant!

I also don't want to make a rash decision out of a rebound due to my loss, but this pup somewhat stole my heart....he is adorable, the current owner seems genuinely interested in his well being only (she did have him neutered already & is a groomer so he is groomed constantly + is picky about where he goes - already turned down 2 people interested because she wasnt comfortable with them having the dog)

Thoughts / advice from this community would be greatly appreciated! I do apologize about the length of this!
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I would not be afraid to take this dog, 7 months is still a baby and I think he will be fine. He may always be a bit shy, it could just be his personality. But it sounds like he has not had much of a chance to come out of his shell to me.
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and don't forget, all poodles, apparently, are a bit nutty, shy, scared of something, and have some issue between 6 months and 1 year. Especially the boys - runor has it in the show world, if you have not finished your boy before he is 9 months, give up till he is 18 months and start over...

7 months seems a perfect age to go through the relearning curve that all poodles, especially the boys, seem to have....

I know I was actually worried that Spike had some sort of brain damage from about 7 months till recently (just turned 1 year oct 28th)... He looked funny, walked into things, seemed to lose his touch with space and reality, ate EVERYTHING, laid about and gazed at walls, flipped out over the smallest things and failed to notice things I'd think any being would notice... Then we compared that to the 14 year old boy living in the house and a light went on....

We're hoping for the human boy and his progress...

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The woman who has him now sounds trustworthy to me. I would say that the two dogs bothering him will likely not be a problem, unless she means they're really hurting him a lot.

He will need some work, but he is definitely not too old.
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No he is the perfect age and not too old to be a great dog. Please take him and give him a forever home. He sounds like a sweetheart. He might be a loner because he was trying to hide from situations he did not like.


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I think the fact that you are thinking hard about the possible issues means that you already half way to solving them. You know he may need extra time and effort, you are not expecting him to be perfect from the start, and you have the experience and good sense to research his needs and the best ways of helping him. I would not be too worried about the travel problem, having gone through it with Sophy - it took many long hours getting her to feel comfortable in the car, and I still have to be ultra careful on wiggly or bumpy roads, but she now just goes to sleep on most journeys.

I would ask if I could take him for a walk, along with his fosterer. There is a big difference between a dog who is not much interested in contact with others, and one which insists on a two mile exclusion zone ... walking him around an area with dogs and children and traffic would give you a good idea of how much work he will need - if any!
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I would go for it! I had a dog with travel sickness and like fjm said, we overcame the problem with small trips and always doing something the dog loved at the end of the short trip...she learned to relax after a while and that made it much, much better for her. If I were you, I'd definitely spend a little time with the dog and see if you are compatible; if he's a bit of a loner, that just may mean he's overwhelmed by a lot of activity and doesn't compete for attention, but with you giving him one-on-one attention, he may just blossom. My Indy is like that--she's the sweetest dog ever, but if Maddy is being silly and goofy and engaging us, Indy will just sit back and watch. She's not the type to hog the limelight (unlike her sister!), but she's totally worth getting to know.
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I have a male, 3 year old standard, black with some silver if you're interested. He needs to work on his manners and has been in kenneling for a long time. He travels well. He's very sociable and loves people.

Not to deter you from a dog you already might have your heart set on. I was just putting it out there as a possibility.
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I think he sounds like he has promise. Since you have experience with poodles I am sure you will be able to make him into a great companion for yourself and family. As to car rides, Lily used to be reluctant and Peeves used hate the car, but numerous short trips when they were young to go to training classes got them both to be decent passengers. Lily generally really likes the idea of going somewhere in the car now since she often is going to agility or obedience class or to trials and she loves to work.

Keep in mind the developmental stages that dogs go through and remember you are starting with an adolescent. You will do fine.
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You said he was good in a car but did not travel well? Did they mean he did not do well in new places? Your vacation home would become part of normal for him very quickly. Home 1 and home 2, not a problem.
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