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Old 01-15-2013, 07:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, I know this is a Poodle forum, but I was referred here from a member of a chinese crested forum that I frequent, and kind of just wanted to share this with anyone who might have some advice . . .

I currently work at a vet clinic where the vets breed doodles as a hobby. The dogs they own seem to spend most of their lives kenneled, and are very often smelly, dirty, and extremely matted. I don't know much about their personal facility, but they often board about 10 dogs at a time in the clinic (for breeding, or they don't have space at home). From my guess of the amounts of their dogs that come in and out of the clinic, they likely own at least 30 dogs.

Now don't get me wrong, nothing "illegal" is going on. The dogs all have fresh food and water at all times, and are let outside in a run for a few minutes 3 times a day. However, unless I am working that day, they get no socialization, and are filthy matted messes (I alone have been working with the dogs as much as I am able- bathing, grooming, etc., but no one else will because they are "too busy" or because the dogs are "gross", or they are "idiots") I hate it- I feel like they clinic is hardly more than a step or two above a puppy mill- but if I quit, the dogs would be in worse condition, because I am the only one that works with them other than just providing food and water.

Anyways, to the point of this post, there is one dog named "Princess", who the vets are "trying" to rehome, because she has a cataract and is a neurotic pacer (walks around in circles whenever stimulated) probably from living in a kennel her whole life. By trying- I mean they haven't done anything except leave her in boarding to stagnate. I feel so bad for this dog. She is so sweet and loveable- the potential to be a really great companion- but she needs some work. I've been taking her home with me for the last few nights (as well as keeping her clean and fluffy and brushed out for the first time in her life) to work with her on potty training and house manners so that maybe she can possibly get a HOME instead of staying kenneled for years and years.

Anyways, long story short, I'm looking for any advice on what to do, and how to work with this dog to help get her placed in a loving home. She is a tad bit shy of men (not fearful, just cautious), is good with other dogs and cats, is very gentle, just not potty trained and is an obsessive pacer + very nervous because she hasn't been in a house since she was a puppy. Don't know her exact age, but probably somewhere around 3 or 4. Anyways, any advice would be very much appreciated.
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I can't really advise, but thank you for doing what you can to help these poor dogs (and I have to say that your employers sound very sorry excuses for vets). I am sure members with more experience will be along to help, but meanwhile have you tried breed rescues (labradoodle, poodle and labrador), and have you seen Patricia McConnell's booklet (Love has no age limit" on rehoming adult dogs (available on Amazon, or as an eBook here: Patricia McConnell | Dog Training eBook | Love Has No Age Limit: Welcoming an Adopted Dog into Your Home )

Good luck - I hope you succeed in bringing some happinness into this poor girl's life.
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Ok, so you say: I currently work at a vet clinic where the vets breed doodles as a hobby.

I think everyone here agrees that humane treatment of all animals is very important. I really have issues with the ethics of someone who is a vet breeding the mixed breeds a hobby -- just me.

I do hope you can get some good training/behavioral advice though for the sake of the pup.
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I say contact a rescue group - anonymously if you are concerned about your job - and hopefully the entire kennel of dogs will be rescued.
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I would consider taking this to a local news reporter. Shame them into doing better. It would cost you your job, but it may make the biggest differance in all the dogs lives. So sorry, and thanks for all that you are doing. Could you adopt this dog yourself? Sometimes the person you are looking for is you!
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I would consider taking this to a local news reporter. Shame them into doing better. It would cost you your job, but it may make the biggest differance in all the dogs lives. So sorry, and thanks for all that you are doing. Could you adopt this dog yourself? Sometimes the person you are looking for is you!
That is an option, but if it is your employer it could be difficult. And, from the sound of the number of dogs, it definitely is for the money.
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What a horriable situation to be in (for you and the dogs). I assume that you are allowed to bring her home?

I would start by doing just that, giving her the opportunity to adjust to a home. I would keep her on a leash near you in the house and just have her hang out during your evening routine. You can try doing the same when your duties at the clinic allow (ie having her out of the kennel and tied to you). Work on some basic obediance using a clicker and some treats to sort of re-awaken her interest in "learning". I would find some of the clicker training videos on youtube geared towwards puppies and start at the very beginning. You can expant the click and treat to greeting new people/men as well. Bascially, I would just start as though she was a brand new puppy. She will likely make much quicker progress then a puppy due as he brain and body are fully developed, she just needs to be taught.


I would avoid taking her out in public for a few weeks and work on the basics at home, and then see about getting her into a introductory obediance class. You may also be able to find a local rescue that is willing to help you (they usually have good training resources and access to potential homes), assuming you are willing to do the leg work and provide the intual funding. I would also use this opportunity to express the the vet that if he/she is ready to retire her then you will take her on and find her a pet home, but that she needs to by spayed and up to date on her vaccines before you can really start working with her. Vet work is really a big cost in rehabbing a dog, so it would be great to get their cooperation on this, but you may need to address it on the front end so they don't just use you for free labor.
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If I knew that my vet was into breeding for profit of any breed let alone Doodles , she/he would no longer be my vet. If this is a concealed Puppy Mill and it sounds like it is, try and get some footage of the operation. I think your local news would be interested in the story. It would hurt the vets bottom line and maybe change something. I would also check into rescue groups and see if someone can help you. I hate stories like this, it makes me sick. I just have no understanding of it...
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I thnk it is a very big ask to expect someone to put their job on the line in the current economic climate - especially as, if no laws are being broken, it is unlikely to do the dogs any good, will deprive them of their comforter and champion, and probably leave the OP blacklisted from similar employment in the local area.

If any PF members happened to know of the vet in question and their breeding practices. and were able to involve Poodle rescues and animal welfare without involving the OP, it would of course be a whole different ballgame...
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