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01-15-2013, 10:34 AM
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Vets breeding doodles? ugh
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01-15-2013, 11:04 AM
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I guess you are right , I just get so mad!
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01-15-2013, 11:37 AM
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Me too, but the OP is between a rock and a hard place, and trying to do the best thing in a difficult situation. If they can get it right this time, they may help the dog to a happy home, and keep their employers' confidence so that they can improve life for the other dogs as well. Got to be worth our best endeavours!
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01-15-2013, 01:20 PM
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I agree- they should know better, shouldn't be allowed to own animals, and I also disprove of the breeding of multi-thousand dollar mixes. I love Spoos, and when I can afford another dog, a Spoo is what I want.
The Dr.s seem like compassionate vets on the outside, but are in complete denial about their own animals- or just don't care. One of their Spoos- an absolute love, btw, has eye drainage problems, and seems to me to be very underweight (not that I am a vet or anything). I am the only one who ever cleans his eyes (they get crusted shut with gunk), and when I talked to the Dr. about how skinny he is, his response was- well he's just a picky poodle. Blugh. I will never again trust a vet I don't think, because you never know what goes on behind the scenes.
I looked up state laws, and there is nothing to report . . . the kennels conditions exceed the minimum requirements (even though they are in imo inhumane) and their dogs are kept up to date on vaccinations/heartworm treatment, etc (not regular health check ups though).
the Dr.s profit more from sale of their multi-thousand dollar puppies, than from the clinic itself. As soon as puppies are born they are removed from the clinic. The pictures posted on the website and the descriptions of the breeding animals are very inaccurate- In many instances only old pictures where the dog was freshly groomed are used on their website, along with untruthful descriptions such as " _____ loves being a in the house and thinks he is everyone's friend" when in reality, the dog hadn't been groomed/bathed in months, smelled like concentrated urine, and was being kept kennelled (till I arrived and groomed him of course . . . I've only been working at the place for about 3 months and will likely be gone by May . . .
This just goes to show that one can NEVER be too careful when selecting a breeder and should ALWAYS insist on touring the breeder's facility and be shown the parents of puppies.
I also live in a very rural area, and I doubt that even if reported to news people, etc. that any fuss would be raised . . . it seems like everyone is a backyard breeder or a kennel around here . . . doesn't make it any less disgusting, but it seems almost accepted around here I guess, which makes it difficult to change anything.
I have had "Princess" home with me for an entire week now. We are making a bit of progress on crate and potty training, and her pacing has been getting much much better. Generally she will pace a bit when I am up and moving around, but will settle very quickly and lay at my feet once I am sitting on the couch. She doesn't ever try to get up on the furniture, and when I pulled out a doggy bed onto the floor, she didn't even know what to do with it and wouldn't go near it. She has also made progress with learning "sit", and I was overjoyed yesterday when she FINALLY began to try to play ball with me, and flopped on her back for belly rubs for the first time.
I don't know if this is allowed on this forum- because I am new here- but feel free to PM me if anyone wants more info about Princess.
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01-15-2013, 01:29 PM
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Don't get Peta involved, they euthanize most of the animals they "rescue", and that's not speculation that is proven fact.
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01-15-2013, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MaryLynn
Don't get Peta involved, they euthanize most of the animals they "rescue", and that's not speculation that is proven fact.
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Oh I know, they are an embarrassment. But, they do know how to get media attention.
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01-15-2013, 05:30 PM
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This sounds like a very hard situation for the OP, but also really damaging for all of the dogs in this "not quite a puppy mill?" breeding program. Is there anyone here who might be able to figure out where these dogs are who could tip off a rescue group without involving the OP?
And anyone other than PETA please. I am not sure how useful publicity would be here.
OP, are these golden doodles or labradoodles or something else? Is there any awareness in local folks from poodle clubs or the other parent breed? Is there way you can give a hint to help make something happen without putting your job on the line?
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01-15-2013, 06:25 PM
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I genuinely appreciate the concern and desire to help these dogs- I promise you, no one wants to help them more than I do- but please don't get ahead of yourselves. I have intentionally not provided specific information or names because I am not yet in a position that I would want anyone at work discovering this thread, nor anyone to attempt to contact my workplace at this time (not entirely sure if they could sue me for even posting this?). At a future time (hopefully in the next few months) I plan on relocating or hope to find full time work elsewhere. At that time I will be more willing to take more direct action towards the facility in order to hopefully improve conditions for the animals (in as professional a manner as possible). I am unfortunately not in any sort of financial position to risk my (completely unsatisfying and depressing) part-time job at this time. Once again, I genuinely appreciate the support, and will do my best in whatever ways I am able to help these dogs, and will keep updating.
On a lighter note- today was a TOUGH day for potty training princess. Apparently she REFUSES to go pee in the rain- and it has been raining constantly since I woke up. Had to walk the girl about 20-30 times today, crating in between, before she FINALLY agreed to pee outside and not on the carpet. She must have been holding about a gallon of pee in her by the end of the day, poor stubborn thing.
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01-16-2013, 04:59 AM
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We absolutely respect and understand what a hard position you are in. I hope that you will be able to get to a point where some of the various options that were floated out here might be able to help you help these dogs. If and when you do, you know we will help any way we can. In the meantime we are all rooting for you to be able to make a difference for them and for yourself.
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01-16-2013, 10:04 PM
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I can't believe these are vets. So disgusting!
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