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Old 12-25-2012, 08:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi, All.

This seems like such a lovely forum. I'm happy to have found it.

I've been a Doberman person most of my life & have volunteered for Dobe rescues since 1998. Poodles have always been my #2, but I've never lived with one before.

My fiancÚ & I currently share our home with a wonderful Doberman, Liam, who we rescued last Aug. Liam will be 1yo this Jan 9. Turns out, David is terribly allergic to Liam. We're currently trying to find the right med combo to allow our happy home to continue as is. Unfortunately, the meds are, so far, only seeming to help David sleep most of the day; this is not only less than ideal, but downright dangerous for his research chemistry career: we really like all ten of his fingers.

So, since Poodles have long been my #2 breed, we're beginning our search for a semi-local (Philly-ish) breeder of silver minis. We're in no rush, but like the idea of an early summer or so arrival time.

Some questions:
- Is it true that Poodles wouldn't trigger David's allergies?

- Would a Min Poo likely be ok with my beloved Whiteface Pearl Cockatiel, Simi, who I handfed? Simi is out for a couple hours a day, only within my direct supervision.

- Is it feasible that a Dobe person (read: 0 grooming experience), could learn to perform "lamb clips" on a mini? I like the idea of bonding while grooming & the $avings is attractive too...
I'm very familiar with doing weekly Spa Day: ears, dreming nails, & bathing.

Well, nice to meet you & thanks for any/all advice & suggestions.

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Love your post! I love dobes too I wonder if you could get David around a poodle and just see how he reacts? They are still dogs and do have dog dander, and shed...it's just that you have to brush out the fur; it doesn't fall out and lie around in little snow drifts under your furniture like normal shedding dogs' fur does. They also have very little odour. Poodles are great and are not dissimilar to the dobe personality in that they hate to be alone, need socialization, are super smart, and need training or they can be mischievous. Oh and don't be intimidated by the poodle coat, you can totally learn to groom a poodle yourself and you can always have a short, easy clip too. I think the short clips are really cute! p.s. it's all about socializing when it comes to your cockatiel too! My two standard females have quite a strong prey drive and I never had them around birds (they ARE bird dogs, and I noticed a natural attraction to birds), but poodles in general have a gentle nature and can be desensitized to anything given enough patience and gradual exposure. So I don't think the cockatiel would be a problem. But I wouldn't leave them unsupervised for sure.
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I've heard it said poodles are like dobermans without the hair, so you should feel right at home with the breed in no time! It would be wise to expose your fiancÚ to a poodle before bringing one into your home to see whether the dander is an issue for his allergies. I have a silver mpoo, and a strong fondest for the color. There are two New Jersey breeders with silvers you might want to consider.

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You might also take a look at the silver poodle thread, here's the link.
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Another resource for your search is the Poodle Club of America, either for a breeder or poodle rescue group. You can as you know find some real gems in rescue, even silver mpoos--a friend of mine got her two that way.

Welcome to PCA!

Good luck with your poodle search. I hope there's a silver mpoo in your home in the New Year!
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Thank you both very much!
I've also heard that Poodles are Dobe-like: Velcro Dogs.
& I enjoy training, socializing, & exercising, so we need an active, smart, cuddle-monster.

Yes, I'd love to get David around some Poodles before moving forward. I'll definitely contact the breeders you listed, Chagall's mom. Your boy is just gorgeous!

We are hoping for a well-bred pet pup/young adult from show lines this time around. I've done the rescue thing always in the past: I'm ready to spoil us a little with an issue-free, stable-tempered stunner who's been health-tested.

I will continue volunteering with rescue, though. I enjoy it.
Here's a couple comparison pix of Liam's progress. He came into rescue in Aug at 7months & only 47#, emaciated & covered in generalized Demodectic mange.
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He's now just shy of 1yr & 71.5#. Still a gangly adolescent yet; we estimate his adult weight at 85-90#. He's still fighting the mange... :-/


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Oh, forgot the second comparison:
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The "after" shots are from Oct, so he's much bigger now.


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hiya from a fellow Doberman owner

I have a 3yr old dobe called Opie and a 12 weeks old toy poodle called tricky woo. it's a great combination to own. like you, I want to learn to groom her myself. if it goes wrong I can always shave her and I'd have a toy dobe

try sweeping with a hard brush before you Hoover. you'd be surprised at how much more of liam's hair you'll get up. is he your first brown? I know that people say brown coats can be different to black and tan, that brown's can have more problems with the fur. I'm not sure how true this is
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just seen your pics of him. what a gorgeous face hope you can get his coat back in condition. what have you been recommended to use?
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I too have severe allergy and asthma issues. I am ok with our mini though. Confined spaces with other dogs sets me into a terrible coughing asthma spell. It would be a good idea to make sure your honey is not also allergic to poodles BEFORE you bring one home and your heart is stolen.

With that said, Eaglehill ( eClassic/Eaglehill-South Poodles - Home ) has a silver male and a black male mini available now. Our Rosie is from Eaglehill and I cannot say enough about how responsive and helpful Debbie is. It is drive to SC though. Rosie is a sweetie and very loving and quite the velcro dog indoors...outdoors she is a man's dog.

Hope you can find a solution to your man's suffering. I don't know what I would do if I was also allergic and asthmatic to poodles. I love my Rosie so much!
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hiya from a fellow Doberman owner

I have a 3yr old dobe called Opie and a 12 weeks old toy poodle called tricky woo. it's a great combination to own. like you, I want to learn to groom her myself. if it goes wrong I can always shave her and I'd have a toy dobe

try sweeping with a hard brush before you Hoover. you'd be surprised at how much more of liam's hair you'll get up. is he your first brown? I know that people say brown coats can be different to black and tan, that brown's can have more problems with the fur. I'm not sure how true this is
Nice to meet you!
We have the Dyson Animal vac & use it daily. David has been coughing nonstop since Liam moved in & his skin gets a rash the second Liam rubs against him. Despite Liam's weekly baths. :-/

As for his coloring, I've had several reds over the years: all temp fosters after my first girl, Karma. I've found their coats can be a bit more prone to flaking & irritation. I won't take in dilutes anymore because of the allergy/skin issues. Never have worked with any albinos.
The trouble with Liam's coat is that 1. He was obviously neglected for his 1st seven months & 2. I believe he's Z-factored: has albinism in his background. He has a sizable white chest blaze & I've only seen that size on a dog who had white lines.
Lingering mange def has a generic component.
Liam tends to stress easily, but we're working on that. He attends daycare twice a week, dog lark 1+ times, & acts as Meet n Greet ambassador at rescue events.
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We feed him Annamaet 26%, in addition to oatmeal with his dinner. He gets a probiotic & supplements in his daily Kong: we rotate peanut butter, plain yogurt, mashed potatoes/cauliflower/broccoli/etc, apples, BANANAS (his fave!), cottage cheese, pasta, ...
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I too have severe allergy and asthma issues. I am ok with our mini though. Confined spaces with other dogs sets me into a terrible coughing asthma spell. It would be a good idea to make sure your honey is not also allergic to poodles BEFORE you bring one home and your heart is stolen.

With that said, Eaglehill ( eClassic/Eaglehill-South Poodles - Home ) has a silver male and a black male mini available now. Our Rosie is from Eaglehill and I cannot say enough about how responsive and helpful Debbie is. It is drive to SC though. Rosie is a sweetie and very loving and quite the velcro dog indoors...outdoors she is a man's dog.

Hope you can find a solution to your man's suffering. I don't know what I would do if I was also allergic and asthmatic to poodles. I love my Rosie so much!
Thank you! I feel relieved & hopeful to hear you suffer with dog allergy but are ok with an mpoo.

We'll definitely get him around some Poodles before we begin the hunt.
I can't have our hearts broken again. Liam is David's first dog since early childhood, we just had no idea how allergic he is. :(

Your mpoo's temperament sounds like just what we're hoping for: cuddly indoors, active outdoors.


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