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12-15-2012, 04:22 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Names of dogs: Brûlée
Poodle Type: Standard Poodle
Location: Plainfield
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Thank you so much for all of the support! She truly is a joy and loves all the attention she is getting now. You are right about getting another dog in the future. I'll work on getting Brûlée comfortable before I even begin to think about that!
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12-15-2012, 05:12 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Names of dogs: Walter
Poodle Type: Standard
Location: Syracuse, NY
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Originally Posted by Carley's Mom
It seems that most breeding bitches are retired around 6 years old. I don't think you should breed her. I bought a retired female ( 7 years old) last year that was already spayed for $800 . She was fully trained, and the best gift I have ever given myself. I think you paid a fair price for your dog. She is a poodle and training will not be an issue.
Enjoy your dog, she is a very pretty.
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I am new to Poodles too, and have learned that Walter will try to second guess and out smart me every step of the way. He can also be very stubborn. I love the moment when he realizes that I'm even more stubborn than he is, and he does what he's supposed to with an attitude of "Just kidding, I was planning on doing this in the first place", lol. He has now progressed to the point of knowing what i want, just by my facial expression and body language. I am loving this guy! As far as breeding your girl goes, I think that you'd find it less stressful and more cost effective to buy a puppy!
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12-15-2012, 06:46 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Names of dogs: Lilith
Poodle Type: Standard
Location: Utah
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I don't understand if she was a show dog they wouldn't have sold her without spaying her first. There's a lot of testing for health issues n what not. To be honest.... Leave breeding to people who have been involved with it and know what to look for. Breeding just 'to have one if their puppies' is ... Well... Ridiculous.
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12-21-2012, 05:17 AM
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Names of dogs: Gracie
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If you suspect the breeder is a puppy mill, which you mentioned in your original post, then I guess it's likely that brûlée has already had a couple of litters.
I'm no expert, but think you should spare her the stress of having a litter at this age.
You're her chance for a happy ending. She has possibly had years of neglect, so I think you should just shower her with love and attention, to make up for it!
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12-22-2012, 05:11 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Names of dogs: Shayna - passed away April 2010 after 18 years of love, Currently the girls - Lacey & Sadie
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Hello and  to forum! Congratulations on your little girl Brulee! She will bring lots of love and joy in your household!
Sylvia & the Girls!
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My little dogs - a heartbeat at my feet. ~Edith Wharton
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12-22-2012, 05:26 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Names of dogs: Kruz
Poodle Type: standard
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Welcome and please don't breed her if she was in the a puppy mill type place she has already probibly had at least 6 litters already poor girly she just needs love now and congrades to your daughter she just got a best freind.
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12-25-2012, 02:27 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Names of dogs: Sookie, Shooter
Poodle Type: Standards, Solid Silver and Parti Silver
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The only reason one should ever breed a dog is to improve the breed. Does the dog in question have attributes that you don't want to lose and feel like would be a huge benefit to the breed? Brulee is a beautiful dog and I'm so happy she found a home, but you really should never breed a dog "just to have one of their puppies". To me, that is a selfish reason to put a dog through a whelping. And what of the other pups? You can't keep them all. Whelping can be very dangerous to the bitch, especially if she's older or has already had several litters.
Is she registered with a legitimate kennel club (AKC, C[anadian]KC, UKC)? If you don't know, she shouldn't be bred.
Has she ever produced litters in the past? If the breeder didn't tell you and you don't know, I don't think you should breed her.
Does she have any titles? If she was indeed a show dog, she could have a championship. If you don't know, she shouldn't be bred.
Has she been health tested? There are MANY health tests that poodles should have before being bred. Hips, eyes, elbows, heart should all be tested, in addition to tests for genetic diseases. If she hasn't had any of these tests, she absolutely should not be bred unless you intend to get these tests.
I personally can't believe any reputable breeder would have sold you a dog that wasn't spayed, which means she probably didn't come from a great breeder (and you already said it looked like a puppy mill situation). This means that, despite her being gorgeous and having a great personality, she probably comes from bloodlines that have been bred over and over without health testing or regard to the dogs personality. This means that it's really a toss-up on what type of health and temperaments you would end up with. $400 is a pretty standard rehoming fee for an older standard, even if you get one from a rescue, so regardless of where she came from I think you paid a fair price and got an awesome dog out of the deal. I hope you and your daughter have many wonderful years ahead with her, and I hope you don't decide to breed her. I'm sure you can find a puppy from her "bloodline" without having to breed her, and even if you don't, there are many wonderful poodles in rescue, and tons of amazing breeders who are doing every thing right for you to choose a second companion from. Don't bring more puppies into the world for reasons that aren't sound and aren't going to benefit this breed we all love so much.
I don't mean any of this to sound harsh, just to be informative. If you really are interested in breeding, find a very good breeder to mentor and help you. Attend some shows, meet some people, learn more about the breed and what goes into breeding. There is a right way to go about breeding dogs, but there are so many people doing it wrong. Don't be one of those people, and don't get caught up with others who are breeding irresponsibly.
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