plumcrazy

I know I'm the one and only moderator at this time, and I can't be everywhere at once, but always feel free to PM me, CM, if you see something that I may have missed.

I also was a little taken aback by your short post that seems to have caused a little spurt of misunderstanding... It did appear to me that you were calling into question the OP's right to start a thread and/or for people to comment on it... Maybe a little more explanation (like you did in your following posts) would have helped the majority understand what you meant in that first post... Once I read your later posts, I understood better.

I know you did not mean to be rude, but with a short post like that, it's easy to misunderstand intent. I also know that Chagall's Mom and Rowan were not trying to be rude either - but once the tension is there, it's hard to let it go... So now that we all know that no one meant to hurt feelings - maybe we CAN let it go??

liljaker, please don't ever hesitate to start a thread about something you may have a question about!! Yes, sometimes we have discussed issues here before and sometimes those old threads may get linked to your new one on the same subject, but that's A-OK!! The nice thing about a forum like this is that we always have new members who may not have seen the old threads, and have new viewpoints and opinions they'd like to share. When the old, similar threads get linked, it just gives the thread-starter even MORE information about the subject they're interested in!!

Also, sometimes when very old threads are resurrected by a "bump" to the posts, it can confuse people... so a new thread is absolutely fine - as is linking old threads with similar content so members can get a bigger picture!

Hope this helps!!

Barb

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CharismaticMillie

Thanks, Plumcrazy. Anyone who knows me in person knows that I am a pretty gentle, harmless person. Nearly everything I say in person is said with a smile and hesitation. I am always lighthearted and always try to stay on good terms with everybody. I feel like half the things I say online get taken the wrong way because people don't hear how I am saying it. :/ Anyone else feel this way? I really think people would be awfully surprised at the voice on the end of the phone of they ever talked to me!

I made an honest mistake. I had been following the thread and felt like it was to the point where nobody participating in the conversation was enjoying it anymore and I was questioning whether it was continuing to have a purpose. Hence, my question. I said what I said because I thought it would be a welcomed comment. I thought it was what the members of the conversation were looking to hear. Obviously I judged incorrectly.

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Keithsomething

YES CM!! All the time!! <3 I like to think I know you a bit, and I completely understood where your post was coming from <3 The WORST part of the internet and forums like these is voice inclination...there is none so everything that is said is up to personal perception (not that anyone was WANTING to read it as nasty) and unfortunately unless it's spelled out entirely it doesn't really provide the depth that you were aiming at. I agree with the sentiment though, it was just getting a bit messy i think...though we all agreed it's never ok to call someone a name online!!

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petitpie

CharismaticMillie and Keithsomething, thank you and I agree with your thoughtlful posts;

"I feel like half the things I say online get taken the wrong way because people don't hear how I am saying it. :/ Anyone else feel this way?"

"The WORST part of the internet and forums like these is voice inclination...there is none so everything that is said is up to personal perception...and unfortunately unless it's spelled out entirely it doesn't really provide the depth that you were aiming at."

I have always thought that it is very hard to represent one's personality, caring, and feeling for another person on computer. I think electronic communication falls short as a means of conversation.

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liljaker

This post reminds me of the whole "email interpretation" -- which so often is totally wrong based on the person reading it, or I should say, people in a hurry reading something put their own spin on it. I think this falls into that same category. A short quip in the form of a post where the poster knows exactly what they meant, can be taken lots of different ways -- so I understand. I have been told many times that my short emails often have "tone" to them ...... which I find odd since most of the time they are short because I am wanting to just move on.....when possibly more explanation should have accompanied it. What happens though, is that it can take on a snowball effect and other emails get totally misinterpreted.

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Keithsomething

I think another thing that comes into play with forums and Facebook groups and those sort of things vs. FB chat, or PM's, or IM's or even texting is the number of people commenting on something...where I think Forums FLOURISH by bringing people that would never have met otherwise together, I think they fail a bit in being able to communicate more accurately between one another and a whole...though i have no idea how to solve that XD it's just my observation lol

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petitpie

People meeting, communicating, and sharing ideas are the things I am here to do and what I thought forums were used for and I have been a bit surprised by the emotion involved. When I pause to think "Why?," I can see the reasons, completely. Poodle Forum concerns our beloved poodles and pets.

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Rowan

There are bound to be occasional misunderstandings when one doesn't have the benefit of hearing voice inflection or reading another's body language. However, it's my opinion these road bumps can be prevented in many cases by putting a modicum of thought into the message you're trying to convey. That doesn't mean you have to spend hours formulating each and every post or carefully considering each word. It's just a matter of thinking before you speak, or in this case, type.

I'd have been banned by now if I posted my initial thoughts to many posts, so I not only practice self-censorship but I do consider how my words will be perceived by the average, articulate, and intelligent adult. (You can't please everyone.)

And here's the thing: we're all guilty of posting in a hurry and perhaps not putting much thought into our posts on occasion. *raises hand* Guilty. Been there, done that. When a communication break down occurs, I appreciate a member's willingness to elaborate on their initial thoughts in a polite and articulate manner, as was the case here, but unfortunately that doesn't always happen. Some people resort to personal attacks and immature comments (as we've all witnessed at one time or another).

There are many instances on forums, including this one, where I can't fathom what a member is trying to express because the post is nonsensical, not to mention a grammatical train wreck. Communication is a lost art in this age of texting and e-mail, and many school kids don't even know the difference between an adjective and an adverb, much less how to use one in a sentence.

In conclusion to my long-winded post, there are going to be misunderstandings, but that doesn't mean we have to resort to juvenile antics. You can get your point across without the benefit of voice inflection and body language by choosing your words wisely. We can respect each other and calmly discuss the issue at hand as evidenced by the latter part of this thread. How's that for bringing the thread full circle and back to the original topic?

Cheers!

outwest

This sounds exactly like something I would and have said. I have stepped on toes and people have misunderstood me. I have had my feelings hurt and have also hurt feelings. I think I am better about it after a rash of ticked off mini owners.

Poodles come in all shapes, sizes, temperments, colors, genetics and backgrounds. There is a poodle for everyone's tastes. I love my poodle, but others may not appreciate her background. They love theirs as much as I do mine. I have been trying to keep that in mind.

On line forums can be tough. I admit being shocked there were well over 1000 views on a recent thread I posted. Yikes. It made me feel perhaps I shouldn't be sharing so honestly. Then I thought: Maybe the thread would be helpful to someone else?

I had someone block me after they pm'd me so I couldn't reply to their pm.
okay.....