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Old 12-22-2013, 08:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm looking for a klein or moyen poodle. I came across BayRock Poodles in my search. They have a beautiful red female. The add online states "parents are CHIC and posted on OFA." When I couldn't find the info on the female, she stated that she hadn't been health tested yet. She didn't want to do OFA exam until after the litter. She seemed a little short with me when I questioned her about it. She also stated the female was two years old when in fact, after checking poodlepedigree.com, I found out she was only 16 months old.

Does anybody have any positive reviews about them? The puppy is beautiful; but, I'm picking up to many warning signs.

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Have you done a forum search on this breeder? I know there's at least one that will give you some info on them. Search Bayrock or Barefoot (they used to go by that name).


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Have you done a forum search on this breeder? I know there's at least one that will give you some info on them. Search Bayrock or Barefoot (they used to go by that name).
Thanks. I did find one forum that basically said the same thing about the early breeding. I can't believe they would lie about the dam's age though. Is it really that bad to breed the female that early? And should they be breeding a female at all before the OFA tests are done? It's a real shame because the puppy is stunning.

I didn't realize they went by another name at one time. I'll look into that.
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Well yes if they haven't either bothered to do prelims. The Dam is still mentally & physically maturing. Why not wait another 6 months to breed if not a other year. Why cut the corners, why lie if you have nothing to hide. Look at Karbit Poodles they import their Moyen/Klein's so the true size. Many Americans cut corners & think that mixing the Standard X Mini they get a Moyen/Klein.
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Well yes if they haven't either bothered to do prelims. The Dam is still mentally & physically maturing. Why not wait another 6 months to breed if not a other year. Why cut the corners, why lie if you have nothing to hide. Look at Karbit Poodles they import their Moyen/Klein's so the true size. Many Americans cut corners & think that mixing the Standard X Mini they get a Moyen/Klein.
I spoke to Karin early today. Very helpful, unfortunately, her red litter is all spoken for. Is there anybody else with her background you would/could recommend?
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You also want to make sure any breeder does not use A/I to get the moyen size, not breeding a miniature to a small standard, but actually breeding moyen to moyen. . It's sad there aren't more moyen breeders in the US.

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You also want to make sure any breeder does not use A/I to get the moyen size, not breeding a miniature to a small standard, but actually breeding moyen to moyen. . It's sad there aren't more moyen breeders in the US.
You're quite right. Much of my research seems to come up with exactly what you said. Large mini's being bred to small standards.
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Barefoot/Bayrock definitely breeds dogs at an age that most reputable breeders would find unacceptable. When I was looking for a puppy, she had a dog named Tigre that whelped a litter at only 15 months (i.e., was bred at 13 months!!!). Tigre was born on 1/20/2010 and this litter was whelped on 4/19/2011. Here’s the poodlepedigree page for this dog (take a look at the offspring page and also at the change history page): Pedigree: Hidden Meadows Tigre' Lily
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