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Old 03-09-2010, 03:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I need to let all toy poodle lovers that there is a thief diguising herself as a breeder in Michigan. Dawn Tillery of Tillery's red toy poodles took a $200 deposit for a red female toy poodle who was to be born 2 months after I made my deposit. We both signed her contract stating that a refund would only be given if there was "no red female to choose from in the litter". Unfortunately only 1 male pup was born from the litter and she still hasn't refunded my deposit. She refuses to answer my e-mails and even changed her e-mail address! BUYER BEWARE!!! Dawn Tillery of Tillery's Red Toy Poodles does not hold to the conditions of her own contract!! She will take your money!
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I feel for you and that really sucks Are you going to continue your search? I suggest reading through these threads / past threads too. At this point all you can do now is keep calling etc in an attempt to get your money but at the same time what you have learned from dealing with this person you feel wronged you?

I went to the website, and she has a LOT going on with litters, wow. And just ooooddles of what I call red flags that I would not have went past page 1. I am sure if you are interested there are many experienced people here that can help answer any questions you may have.

Good luck getting your money back and I hope you find a GOOD/GREAT breeder!
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Oh, dear....I am so sorry to hear news like that. I don't suppose you will ever see your money but you learned a hard lesson and I thank you for sharing it with the forum members. I do hope that things will go better for you next time.
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I'm sorry you got burned by this breeder. Have you tried calling rather than emailing?

IMO any breeder who asks for a deposit before the litter is born is suspect. Every breeder I have spoken to who I would actually consider has said we can wait until they see if they might have a puppy for me and then we'll talk deposits. I would walk away from any breeder who asked for money up front.
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Ew.. she's calling her browns 'chocolates' xP
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It's really unfortunate she won't refund your deposit. Maybe in time, she will come to realize it is the right thing to do.

However, if she doesn't, just be thankful that you didn't get one of her pups. I haven't looked at her website yet, but it sounds like you will be much better off with a more reputable breeder. It's a real shame that the toy breeders in particular tend to be breeding for money rather than the betterment of the breed.
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Sorry to hear about your bad experience! Getting the word out about this gal's dishonesty will hopefully keep another unsuspecting person get burned!
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Sorry for such a bad experience. Have you tried calling or going to see her?
Hopefully she will give you a puppy from her next litter if nothing else. Good Luck.
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Do you have a copy of the contract that both of you signed? If so, take her to small claims court, if the contract says what you posted and you both signed it, then I don't see how you could lose. She will also be responsible for your court costs. If you have her physical address, send her a letter giving her 30 days to send your money or you will file. How did you pay? Credit card companies and Paypal should be willing to refund you, JMO.

I don't know how most breeders do it, but the breeder I'm hoping to buy from doesn't ask for deposits until the pups are born and they know how many puppies of which color and sex they have. Even if most breeder ask for a check before the pups are born, they should either not cash it or put the money aside, until their end of the contract has been filled. In this case she shouldn't have touched your money until there was a female red puppy for you.

If nothing else you learned what not to look for in a breeder. Take some time to check out this forum and see what reputable breeders do.
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I'm sorry that things didn't work out for you as hoped. I do hope you're able to get your deposit back. If not, just remember everything happens for a reason and you're probably better off to not have gotten one of her pups. Perhaps something even better is in your future !

I did glance at the website. Her pups are cute, but they do seem to be a bit mishapen/long. There are lots of Toy breeders, I'm sure your perfect dog is out there!
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