Juvenile Renal Dysplasia (JRD) Testing Available - Poodle Forum - Standard Poodle, Toy Poodle, Miniature Poodle Forum ALL Poodle owners too!

thestars · 02-22-2010, 04:04 PM

Testing is now available for JRD.
http://www.dogenes.com/

"We understand that the test will be accepted by OFA once our manuscript is accepted by peer review. This is currently under revision and I hope that this will happen in the near future.
Sincerely,
Mary H. Whiteley, Ph.D
DOGenes Inc."

Juvenile Renal Disease in Standard Poodles - Susan L Fleisher
http://www.vetprof.com/clientinfo/poodlerenal.html

cbrand · 02-22-2010, 05:21 PM

This test has been available in Poodles for a couple of years. It is unreliable and to date, OFA has refused to list the results.

bigredpoodle · 02-22-2010, 05:29 PM

I did see that today a friend emailed this information to me as well as the OFA response..

thestars · 02-22-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrand

This test has been available in Poodles for a couple of years. It is unreliable and to date, OFA has refused to list the results.

Have you ever asked OFA why they refuse to list the results?

thestars · 02-22-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thestars

Have you ever asked OFA why they refuse to list the results?

It is understandable that until patents and publications have been completed that many people will not accept the validity. We shouldn't just dismiss that the test is false or inaccurate because OFA hasn't approved it. What do you have to loose in testing? I recall other tests being in this same situation long ago. When are we to take this disease seriously, when a money making corporation "approves" of it. I think it will be a good $135 dollars or less well spent for the piece of mind that they are not carriers for myself anyways. Isn't that what counts? To me what counts for my future breeding program is that I've done everything possible to ensure my dogs are fully heath tested to what is available to us.

ArreauStandardPoodle · 02-23-2010, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by thestars

It is understandable that until patents and publications have been completed that many people will not accept the validity. We shouldn't just dismiss that the test is false or inaccurate because OFA hasn't approved it. What do you have to loose in testing? I recall other tests being in this same situation long ago. When are we to take this disease seriously, when a money making corporation "approves" of it. I think it will be a good $135 dollars or less well spent for the piece of mind that they are not carriers for myself anyways. Isn't that what counts? To me what counts for my future breeding program is that I've done everything possible to ensure my dogs are fully heath tested to what is available to us.

Isn't this a bit hypocritical?? All we have seen and heard on other threads is how important it is to test and post on OFA and now we should do this test, even though it is not apporved by OFA??? For hips we have Pennhip and OVC and DSL, but oh my God, you have to use OFA testing because it is the "Gold Standard". This doesn't make any sense to me at all. Colour me stupid, but I just don't get this. Sorry.

bigredpoodle · 02-23-2010, 06:33 AM

Lots of tests have to start somewhere I am not at all certain that my NE is posted on OFA this was before this test was recognized and a cheek swab it was whole blood then. I have since been corrected and learned... But unless I send it to them it will never be posted . It is now recognized by OFA and I am very glad that I did it .. How can any test be hypocritical ... I agree with stars I know that i will be doing it ..Better to be safe than sorry ..

Trillium · 02-23-2010, 07:27 AM

A test cannot be hypocritical but people saying that a test is questionable unless it is posted on the ofa in one case and then saying that the inability to post it on the ofa (the gold standard?) doesn't matter in another case is hypocrital!! As well currently know that the dna test for fading that many were doing to be able to ensure that the dog doesn't fade doesn't tell the whole story. While this new JRD test may be a wonderful addition to the testing abilities of responsible breeder it may also prove to be a waste of time. Only time will tell if it is a useful tool or not. In the meantime it is critical to check pedigrees and not rely on a possibly false sense of security that this test may provide

thestars · 02-23-2010, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ArreauStandardPoodle

Isn't this a bit hypocritical?? All we have seen and heard on other threads is how important it is to test and post on OFA and now we should do this test, even though it is not apporved by OFA??? For hips we have Pennhip and OVC and DSL, but oh my God, you have to use OFA testing because it is the "Gold Standard". This doesn't make any sense to me at all. Colour me stupid, but I just don't get this. Sorry.

Not hypocritical at all, it is under review to be added to OFA per the doctor that created the test. Many breed groups are posting this as an additional test. Renal dysplasia research is also occurring at MIT-Broad Institute with focus on the Shih Tzu and Boxers, and at VetGen with a focus on Shih Tzu and Lhasa Apso. Since there are confirmed cases in Standard Poodles it doesn't hurt to test and once available to be posted on OFA then it should be just like PennHip and vWD and CERF are. OFA is still the "gold standard" Database of health testing and Easy for potential Puppy buyers to use. It's very simple to place a link to your dogs results directly from your own website to OFA. No one can rip off the result certificates nor can they make changes to the information. It's easy to view and you don't have to keep sending out copies of certificates via email, fax or even snail mail.

bigredpoodle · 02-23-2010, 07:39 AM

I agree however not everything is there unless it is new.. So how do I get everything posted there..