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08-14-2011, 04:42 AM
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Thanks for posting this. I checked out the web site for the Apricot Red Poodle Club. It's quite nice.
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Check back the ARPC website later this year, I am re-designing the site and adding alot more about the "Total Dog"; We'll be posting pictures of reds and apricots that do therapy, dock jumping, rally, obedience, cart pulling and just about any job a poodle can do! They are not just a bunch of pretty faces!
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08-14-2011, 02:33 PM
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Rayah,
My information about the Apricot Red Poodle Club comes from being a member for 3 years.
Like the other clubs of which I am also a member, I have a very active role in the club - though with the ARPC - I won't pretend I don't wish we were more active in all things colored!
MANY ARPC members were there long before me, some are charter members and others are members in name only - staying a member by paying yearly dues and never having a violation or complaint - the ARPC code of ethics and guidelines is posted on our website and follows PCA's guidelines.
Membership in the ARPC is not a stamp of approval on a breeding program. And it should never be taken as such.
You are not the only person to question the membership of a couple of breeders. A discrete inquiry was tactfully made by private message - about one of the breeders you are referring to...
In a perfect world I would be ruler...oh wait! ha Did I say that outloud? :P
Let me rephrase...In a perfect world, all would be perfect. But this isn't and there isn't and (I'm not ruler) we do the best we can.
Tabatha
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PS Terry (Farley's D) is a charter member of the ARPC and a long time board member. You might message him personally if you have questions or FIRST HAND knowledge of members causing concerns.
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08-14-2011, 10:50 PM
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Someone from England correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it is now out-lawed in England unless you can show proof that this will be a working dog. [/QUOTE]
Correct over here all dogs have to be left with their tails now unless they are working dogs, my two both have full tails and I love them.
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10-13-2011, 11:10 AM
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they were born on our leather couch!?! What????? Odd
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10-14-2011, 05:34 AM
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The website doesn’t appear to work, but I did find a blog. One of the posts on it is an ad hominem attack on an entire group of people — namely people involved in dog showing — and actually denigrates the poodle breed as being unfit for purpose. They also suggest that their dog is fit to be bred because it is large and chases bears.
They seem to conflate the role of a retriever with the role of a hound. They also seem to be using this as justification to breed abnormally large animals, which doesn’t seem to make sense, as most hounds and most retrievers are not particularly large. It said something about the dog having to be large historically because it needed to carry turkeys… turkeys are native to America and don’t exist in the wild in Germany where the breed is thought to originate from, and in historical paintings poodles are usually depicted as being somewhere between the sizes of a miniature and standard.
If someone is breeding outside the breed standard, I would expect to see a proper explanation of why they were doing this and what their goals were. I would at least expect some sort of impression of what the standard they were breeding towards was. If someone was breeding an unrecognised colour, I would expect to see how they intended to improve this colour by mating to good quality correct-coloured dogs. I would always expect to see breed-appropriate health testing. If these people were trying to breed poodles to be hounds or retrievers, I would expect to see animals being used that had obtained distinctions in these fields.
If someone is a breeder, I don’t expect them to necessarily be involved in showing or to like the ‘sideshow’ clips, and I do not think it is unreasonable that they may have goals that don't always align exactly with the breed standard, but I expect them to encourage the improvement of the breed. If a potential buyer wanted to buy a puppy to show, I would expect that to be permitted provided the buyer was a suitable and genuine person. Whilst kennel clubs have their faults, I certainly wouldn’t expect to see a tirade against the breed and competitive showing.
If the breed is for ‘sissies’ and the breed standard is a steaming pile of crap like they suggest, why are they even bothering to register their dogs? Why don’t they find a breed they like that coincides better with their ‘breeding goals’?
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10-14-2011, 05:56 AM
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The website doesn’t appear to work
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Pendragon Poodles 'closed up shop' abt a year ago.
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10-14-2011, 06:37 AM
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Pendragon Poodles 'closed up shop' abt a year ago.
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Good! :-)
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10-29-2011, 09:33 PM
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I have to say when it said puppies are touched every 15 minute I envisioned them being turned a little like eggs. LOL.
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That made me laugh right out loud!!! hahahahahahahaha
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12-24-2011, 05:01 AM
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The endorsement of early neutering by certain veterinary professionals could be countered by as many who oppose the practice. In fact I just read several warning against the procedure. A certain group of Vet's believing in a practice is not enough for me to follow simply because he or she has the degree. I learned that painful lesson after the death of my 13 yr. old Chihuahua who received a 3 yr. Rabies vac, (at the suggestion of the Vet)had a reaction and was dead within 30 days. The Vet I have now told me it was highly unlikely she needed it at all and would have suggested a test to determine that before administering a 3 yr. vac to a small dog of that age.
I'll always need more information than an endorsement by a Veterinary Association from now on.
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12-24-2011, 10:54 AM
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DaveTn:
I'm so sorry to hear of your poor little baby and bad vet experience. I left my vet because his office continued to send yearly shot reminders for our spoos and 13-year old tpoo. My husband and I were just lucky that we did our research before hand.
Best of health for yourself and Simon!
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