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Old 01-28-2012, 05:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I found out how to stop people from taking an AKC limited dog and registering the puppy UKC and getting breeding rights....(I know a contract will stop MOST people and careful screening MAY get the rest).

1) Register both parents with UKC

2) Register the litter with UKC

3) Withhold the UKC papers..when they try to do a single registration on the puppy, UKC will deny the registration because the litter was registered.
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UKC is United Kennel Club correct? there is also the Universal Kennel Club that I find questionable & I think possibly any person can get away with registering their dog with Continental or Universal that couldn't otherwise be registered with the AKC or UKC. I didn't know that the UKC would register with "full rights" from the Limited AKC paperwork. Very interesting.
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UKC is United Kennel Club correct? there is also the Universal Kennel Club that I find questionable & I think possibly any person can get away with registering their dog with Continental or Universal that couldn't otherwise be registered with the AKC or UKC. I didn't know that the UKC would register with "full rights" from the Limited AKC paperwork. Very interesting.
UKC is United Kennel Club is the registry that I am talking about. UKC register with "full rights":, they do not have a limited registration...
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I find that interesting since they must be going around the issue somehow. My Spoo is on LIMITED registration with the UKC & my OT is on Full Registration with both AKC & UKC. I am not sure how somebody would be able to use the AKC Limited & then turn around & get full rights to the UKC. I will have to look into that. I have hd 2 mixes & 1 pure all registered UKC Limited. I soon will have 1 more mix with UKC Limited registration as well. Well worth looking into. Have you noticed though that people will still breed their dogs with no papers saying they never got them or they will register with "other" registry & breed as well.
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My understanding is...i they can verify the pedigree the dog will get full with UKC, otherwise ity is like the AKC PAL program. I checked on the UKC website and they state that they do not reconize limited on the AKC registration.
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Yeah I was thinking about this just not long ago when I was looking to register Vegas to show in UKC altered. All I had to do is write up his pedigree and send it in and he would be UKC registered, altered or intact. Don't even have to have the parents UKC registered. Scary.
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But, if the parents were UKC registered and they registered the litter, then with held the registration, UKC would not give registration because the liitter was registered.
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True, but why would breeders that are interested in just AKC worry about the UKC at all?
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That is how you stop people from breeding and registering your puppy against your wishes.
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I know spaying/neutering of puppies is the one way to protect your puppies and your line (I don't agree with the spaying and neutering of puppies but that is another thread) but this is just another tool to keep people honest.....

There is a thread on the UKC forum about someone wanting to register their AKC limited dog for possible showing, and someone posted about registering your litter UKC to prevent that and I wanted to share the info....
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