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Old 01-13-2012, 09:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi-- it is great to know there is a place to come for,help. I posted a question before about whether I should bring my puppy home at 8 weeks or wait until after a planned vacation when the puppy would be over 12 weeks. Your responses were very helpful, but now that may be a moot point. The puppy is now 6 1/2 weeks old and I'm trying to schedule a visit. The trouble is that the breeder is notresponding to my email that I sent last Tuesday or my phone call from yesterday. I do find this disturbing and really don't know if we should do business with her. The $300 deposit is a concern, but more importantly, I think this might say something about how she is as a breeder and how she cares for and about her poodles.
We are ready to bring another little boy into our home. Our lovable and wonderful Reese passed on and we are now ready, but we want a healthy, well socialized puppy form a breeder we can trust.
Could you please tell me if you know of a breeder who has recently had Pups or is expecting them soon. Thanks--- we are so upset, but think we might have to move on
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I would not give up on the breeder just yet, unless you have other cause for concern. Computers break down, and phone messages go astray. I would call again - and again - until I got a response. A litter of pups of that age is time consuming, and may be causing sleepless nights - give her the benefit of the doubt until you are more certain there is something to worry about.
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She should respond to you after repeated calls with apologies and a reason for the delay. Yes, give her the benefit of the doubt and go from there. You want to visit and 6 and 1/2 weeks is early, but I would be anxious to see the babies, too!
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Do you have other concerns about this breeder? Does she do the recommended genetic health testing on the parents before breeding them? Does she show her dogs? Does she offer a health guarantee on the puppies?
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Thank you for your quick responses. I will do as you suggest, keep calling until I get a response. I hate to be a pest, but the breeder did tell me previously that I could visit this coming weekend and now does not seem to be keeping her word. Even of the timing is not good, I would expect some sort of a response. I understand, though, that she could be very busy.

She does do health testing and gives a two year health guarantee. I was able to look up the sire and dam on poodle pedigree and had the pup's COI computed. This might be my only other area of concern, but after reading numerous posts here, there seem to be different opinions on the issue.
The. 10 year COI is 9.22, but the prevelant bitch in the pup's ancestry (grandmother on sire's side --- great grandmother on mother's side ) has good test results and is healthy.

My main concern, though, is this stalled communication, but I will be patient and try to have a wait and see attitude! Thanks for reading my rant-- it feel's good to get my frustrations out,
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I would continue calling & emailing. You did put a deposit on a pup & therefore the breeder has the responsibility of keeping up with the clients. My computer at home is down right now & I am at McD's to email & keep up with people. Don't give up you have money down on a pup. I think you mean a 10 Generation COI not 10 year. 9.22 is considered high for poodle's on the whole but in other breeds it is acceptable. If you post the sire & dam on here then there are very knowledgeable pedigree people that can do some digging but that might be a moot point since you already have a deposit down.
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The average standard is higher than 9.22. That said, I looked for one under 5%, but up to 10% should be acceptable if the dogs in the line tested well.

I would try several more times and give her the benefit of the doubt for a couple more days. Any more than that and I, too, would be concerned. Have you been getting any litter updates in the last few weeks? My breeder called me back within a day and often within a couple of hours when I had questions. Most breeders are like that. Even if your puppy is not well socialized, you will be getting her/him young so that shouldn't be too big of a concern, although a well socialized puppy is so much easier at first.

Please let us know what happens!

My breeder has a fullsized standard litter due (dam 23.5 inches, sire 25 inches- so average sized) the end of February, but I don't know where you are located. Also, that would make you wait another 4 months and you have waited long enough!
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Thank you all for your support. I feel better just knowing I have knowledgeable people willing to help. Yes, 3Dogs, I meant 10'generation and I thank you for the correction . I am so new at deciphering these details. Outwest, we are located in the northeast and willing to drive for a good pup, but not to California!
However, my son and his family live there and I am use to the " commute".

I am following everyone's advice--- will call again tomorrow and give her the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully, all will turn out well. If not, I know who to turn to----all of you. I will update any results, positive or not. Thanks again.
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I just wanted everyone who helped me to know that the breeder did email me new photos of our boy and I was able to speak to her on the phone today. Perhaps, she will let me visit tomorrow. Thanks to all of you, I learned how tiring it must be to take care of nine pups.
I know I'll be back with more requests for support-- thanks again---
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It is possible the puppies need a bath and trim. Bathing, brushing and trimming 9 puppies is an all day affair. LOL
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